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Re: 2009 World Series [Re: SC] #559431
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Personally, I don't give a shit for rivalries or anything else, and anyone who can't politely give or accept congratulations for the Yankees can go home and suck it. Poor fans can be found on all sides of the table.

Congrats to the team that I root for. It was nice to see that win. This was an excellent series, and I enjoyed watching every game. The Phillies were formidable opponents, and it certainly wasn't an easy victory!


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lolz, SC *sad face* *sour grapes*

Trivia: Before this year, what was the most expensive team to ever win a World Series?

The 2007 Boston Red Sox.

Now that we've got the whining out of the way, I've got some shopping to do. Looking forward to adding a Jeter jersey to my collection, which will go nicely with my Gehrig cooperstown. And hats!



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SB...rivalries are GREAT part of every sport...as long as it's all done with good spirit. Haven't seen any real hooligans round this forum tho. Well, except Gina of course grin

Anywayz..congratz to JG, SB and Irishman (hope I didnt forget anyone)

Enjoy it while you still can....cos next year the Cubs will eat you all for breakfast grin

2010 champs: Chi Cubs

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Geoff, Maybe you're too busy with other things in your life.




Yeah...painting bathrooms tongue


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You don't have to tell me about rivalries, Fame. My dad was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. When I gave my hand in marriage to a Yankee fan, and then actually became one, it was almost too much for him! panic Because he loved Mr. Babe so much, though, he decided to let it go.


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Originally Posted By: Double-J
lolz, SC *sad face* *sour grapes*

Trivia: Before this year, what was the most expensive team to ever win a World Series?

The 2007 Boston Red Sox.


Trivia: What is the most expensive team EVER to have not won a few World Series in those many years?

The New York Yankees ... you choose the many years. (some of those years were over 40% higher than Boston's payroll).

Now crawl back into your woodwork until the next election.

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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
You don't have to tell me about rivalries, Fame. My dad was a Brooklyn Dodgers fan. When I gave my hand in marriage to a Yankee fan, and then actually became one, it was almost too much for him! panic Because he loved Mr. Babe so much, though, he decided to let it go.





Now I wonder if Mr.Babe is named after you or after another babe (babe ruth) grin


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Re: 2009 World Series [Re: SC] #559438
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lolz, SC *sad face* *sour grapes*

Trivia: Before this year, what was the most expensive team to ever win a World Series?

The 2007 Boston Red Sox.


Trivia: What is the most expensive team EVER to have not won a few World Series in those many years?

The New York Yankees ... you choose the many years. (some of those years were over 40% higher than Boston's payroll).

Now crawl back into your woodwork until the next election.


Oh well. I have to say, your reaction is priceless. I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

*sad face* payroll. You mean even the legendary grit and determination couldn't stop the unflappable Red Sox from their *destiny* this year? Watching the stunned fans at Fenway when the Angels destroyed them was the best part of the ALDS for me, even more than sweeping the Twins.

Thanks for blowing it with Mark Teixiera. We really appreciate it! wink



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Originally Posted By: Double-J
You mean even the legendary grit and determination couldn't stop the unflappable Red Sox from their *destiny* this year? Watching the stunned fans at Fenway when the Angels destroyed them was the best part of the ALDS for me, even more than sweeping the Twins.


It wasn't their destiny to win this year... remember, you're talking about the Red Sox... perennial losers (and, quite frankly, those teams I enjoyed watching more). Sure, I wanted to see them win, but don't want it or expect it every year.
If you were around (not that I missed you) you would have read that I believed the Sox would not get past the Angels in the LDS) this year.

But if you want to bring up "stunned fans", NOTHING will ever match 2004. (and I'm referring to the those last 4 games - and not the 4 games in the World Series).


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Originally Posted By: SC
That happened YEARS ago.... is that the reason you cheer for them?


Originally Posted By: SC

But if you want to bring up "stunned fans", NOTHING will ever match 2004. (and I'm referring to the those last 4 games - and not the 4 games in the World Series).


Wait, what? tongue

Remember when A-Rod wasn't clutch and people considered him a terrible baseball player? [/sarcasm]



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Talking to you about ANYTHING, Fat Boy, reminds me that if I wanted to hear from an asshole, I would have farted.

OK, Don Sicilia, no need for any reprimand. I've had it with dealing with people like this.


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lol

The irony is that you really are the bizzarro of Irish. Glad you're enjoying a taste of your own medicine.

I'm glad your true colors show like Curt Schilling's bloody sock.



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Congratulations to the Yankees, and to SB, Irish, MaryCas, Geoff...and DJ, who coincidentally reappeared after the victory. wink What can I say? Sometimes the good guys don't win. grin

I Pettitte did a good job on short rest. He must use one hell of a masking agent. tongue

In a way I'm glad the season is over, and I'm sure I'll be looking forward to watching the Phillies next year as some of their young talent develops.

Some interesting points were made about the unequal advantages that baseball allows. I'd like to continue this discussion ion the thread, but I figure I'll give the Yankee fans a day or two to puff their chests.

By the way, Matsui came up with some big hits, but I'm disappointed that the MVP went to a DH, instead of a baseball player (you can tell how I feel about the DH). I mean how valuable are you if you can't beat out Swisher or Damon for a corner outfield spot. Jeter batted leadoff, hit over .400 and played a demanding position, and Damon had the hit in Game 4 that was a turning point in the series.

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Honestly Kly, Utley should have been the MVP. No question about it, had he gotten some better pitching and had hitters ahead of him actually get on base (is this the place for a "Jimmy Rollins is overrated" debate?), it could be a whole different story.

As far as Matsui winning the MVP, it was his performance in Game 6 that really sealed it. Otherwise, it could just have easily been Burnett had he not blown up in Game 5; Jeter, had he gotten a clutch hit instead of a GIDP at the end of Game 5; etc. etc. etc.



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Incidentally, is it acceptable that I hate the Philly fans but not the team? I really think the team, from top to bottom, is classy and was glad that the series showcased the two best teams. But the fans, from what I could discern from chants and catcalls, were ridiculous. Nothing like chanting "Yankees suck" even when they're beating the home team. tongue

Note, of course, that this mantra doesn't apply to you. grin



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Originally Posted By: Double-J
Honestly Kly, Utley should have been the MVP. No question about it, had he gotten some better pitching and had hitters ahead of him actually get on base (is this the place for a "Jimmy Rollins is overrated" debate?), it could be a whole different story.



It's hard to give the award to a player on a losing team, but what's funny is that Utley had a subpar postseason until the series. Baseball is a rollercoaster type of game.

I thought of pitchers too. Pettitte was the winner of two games, but wasn't dominant. Sabathia pitched better, but was 0-1 and Rivera got his saves, but didn't have the one run situation or a really close game save. Anyway, the MVP is just icing.

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Originally Posted By: Double-J
Incidentally, is it acceptable that I hate the Philly fans but not the team? I really think the team, from top to bottom, is classy and was glad that the series showcased the two best teams. But the fans, from what I could discern from chants and catcalls, were ridiculous. Nothing like chanting "Yankees suck" even when they're beating the home team. tongue

Note, of course, that this mantra doesn't apply to you. grin


Usually, it's "F*** New York." But the chants centered on A-Rod and Pettitte for steroids. My friend, who was at a couple of games in Philly was wondering why "Group Sex Sucks!" until he realized Spike Lee was there and they were chanting "Girl 6 Sucks."

I was at a game this year where the first ball was thrown out by a war hero in Afghanistan and Iraq. He got a standing ovation, but when he bounced the ceremonial toss hewas booed lustily.

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Originally Posted By: klydon1

It's hard to give the award to a player on a losing team, but what's funny is that Utley had a subpar postseason until the series. Baseball is a rollercoaster type of game.

I thought of pitchers too. Pettitte was the winner of two games, but wasn't dominant. Sabathia pitched better, but was 0-1 and Rivera got his saves, but didn't have the one run situation or a really close game save. Anyway, the MVP is just icing.


There's definitely a reason for having an MVP for each round of the playoffs. But honestly, I think the MVP should be the most valuable player, regardless of whether of not their team wins. Granted, some could make the argument that if a player was so valuable that inherently it should go hand in hand with winning, but there is no doubt that Utley was the most dangerous hitter in the World Series.

Matsui was the MVP of game 6, that's for sure, but for the whole series, not so much.



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Originally Posted By: klydon1

Usually, it's "F*** New York." But the chants centered on A-Rod and Pettitte for steroids. My friend, who was at a couple of games in Philly was wondering why "Group Sex Sucks!" until he realized Spike Lee was there and they were chanting "Girl 6 Sucks."

I was at a game this year where the first ball was thrown out by a war hero in Afghanistan and Iraq. He got a standing ovation, but when he bounced the ceremonial toss hewas booed lustily.


Cole Hamels seems to be catching a lot of heat for his comments about being anxious for the season to end. I didn't really see to much of a problem with it, but then the story broke about Myers and Hamels getting into a scuffle in the locker room. What's your take on the Hamels issue?

It would have been hilarious if the exchange between Myers and Hamels was true (e.g. "I thought you quit."). I would've loved to see if Hamels came back with something like "I thought you beat your wife." tongue



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Congratulations again Yankee fans! I was in the first one in the boards to say it was over. of course it was a desperate try to evoke a jinx but I didn't even bother to stay awake until the end of the game, just like the whole postseason. I know I'll be missing baseball in 2 weeks.

as for the MVP, the thing is that the award most often is not handed to the "most valuable player"; there is some kind of hidden formula to it, and when no one really stands out from the rest, a couple of big hits could do it. I can't think of anyone better than the Godzilla to get the hardware this year. he sealed game 2 with a HR and posted the record for RBI in a World Series game, in the clinching game 6! batted .615 with 8 RBI! Uley was the best player on the field, but how valuable was him if his team lost 4 out of 6 games?

if Jimmy Rollins was getting on base, Utley's hot bat could've done more damage, and now the Phillies have an interesting situation with Rollins: he had one of the greatest seasons ever in 2007, but was one of the worst regulars in the MLB in 2009. sub .300 OBP, that does it for me. that is the most telling single statistic in baseball, and Rollins was in the bottom 5 in the MLB among players who qualified for the batting title. the Phillies at least have to remove him from the leadoff spot and find someone else. Victorino is only a great #2 hitter.


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BTW, speaking of statistics, did anyone else laugh hard at Joe Buck in Game 4 I believe when he brought up that "newfangled statistic some people are beginning to use called OPS?" Fox sports is bad enough, but Buck is horrible. Apparently something coming out of the late-80's is "newfangled."



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The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat.....the human drama of athletic competition...... Us older folks might remember those words in the opening of "Wide World of Sports". The show probably met its demise when ESPN began expanding its coverage and influence.

For some the "thrill of victory" was connected to the Yankees accomplishment. I'm a Yankee fan, but not fanatical. Professional sports has lost a lot of its "human drama of athletic competition". Its become BIG business and entertainment. Many say that the Yankees are the best team money can buy, but the Yankee organization also has the highest gross income. They play in a market where the fans have high incomes, high expectations and let's face it - the greatest city in the world.

Until baseball owners and union leadership institute salary caps you will always have a few teams buying up the better players.

I enjoy watching players like Jeter and Rivera, but I also admire good players on other teams; like Rollins, Utley and Howard.

Personally, I get more of a thrill watching the NY Marathon and see some skinny guy from Kenya cross the finish line, fall to his knees and kiss the ground. That seems more noble, thrilling and inspiring than A-rod pronouncing how wonderful his team is.....for $33 million a year.


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I offer my congrats to Geoff, SB, and Mary Cas.

I tend to agree with SC's statements - the Yankees should win nearly every year with the way they can just buy players. MLB incorporates the worst revenue "sharing" in any sport, where 85% of the teams have no realistic shot heading into spring training.

And somebody ought to smack Bud Selig for a) allowing home field advantage to be decided by an exhibition game, b) letting the World Series drag into November, and c) for doing his best to invent new ways to ruin what was once the best professional sport.

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The National League has just ruled that the Phillies can never participate in another World Series unless they agree to actually compete in it.


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Originally Posted By: olivant
The National League has just ruled that the Phillies can never participate in another World Series unless they agree to actually compete in it.


ill take the phillies over the dodgers/cardinals any day...if the cubs ever make it past the NLCS then i will root for the obvious.

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Originally Posted By: Double-J
lolz, SC *sad face* *sour grapes*

Trivia: Before this year, what was the most expensive team to ever win a World Series?

The 2007 Boston Red Sox.

Now that we've got the whining out of the way, I've got some shopping to do. Looking forward to adding a Jeter jersey to my collection, which will go nicely with my Gehrig cooperstown. And hats!


You getting the championship hat & shirt? I am tomorrow! I can't wait! 9 years in the waiting baby grin

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lolz, SC *sad face* *sour grapes*

Trivia: Before this year, what was the most expensive team to ever win a World Series?

The 2007 Boston Red Sox.


Trivia: What is the most expensive team EVER to have not won a few World Series in those many years?

The New York Yankees ... you choose the many years. (some of those years were over 40% higher than Boston's payroll).

Now crawl back into your woodwork until the next election.


Oh well. I have to say, your reaction is priceless. I'm thoroughly enjoying it.

*sad face* payroll. You mean even the legendary grit and determination couldn't stop the unflappable Red Sox from their *destiny* this year? Watching the stunned fans at Fenway when the Angels destroyed them was the best part of the ALDS for me, even more than sweeping the Twins.


I agree. It was PRICELESS. ESPECIALLY seeing Papelbum stew in the dugout lol



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Thanks for blowing it with Mark Teixiera. We really appreciate it! wink


1923 = The Curse of the Babe
2009 = The Curse of the Teix wink

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[quote=SC][quote=Double-J]

[quote=Double-J]Thanks for blowing it with Mark Teixiera. We really appreciate it! wink


1923 = The Curse of the Babe
2009 = The Curse of the Teix wink


how does that make since...the sox traded away ruth in 1919. Teix was a free agent who was stolen away from the team with the most money.

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It doesn't make any sense, BAM. Irish and I are both Yankee fans, but he's the kind that makes people hate Yankee fans.


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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Congratulations to the Yankees, and to SB, Irish, MaryCas, Geoff...and DJ, who coincidentally reappeared after the victory. wink What can I say? Sometimes the good guys don't win. grin


Thanks klydon, true class my friend. The Phillies are a VERY tough team and didn't make it easy on the Yankees to win this series. They have NOTHING to be ashamed of as I believe they'll be back in it again next year. Until then, good luck Phillies.

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