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Ben Hur Tonight #556030
09/26/09 08:16 PM
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Ben Hur (1959) just beginning on TCM. One of my all time favorites, a spectacular film, Charleton Heston carries it like no other actor could have...and for those of you who seem to enjoy dwelling upon the subliminal homo-erotic themes, who cares.

It's the story of a man, beautifully told and acted...and THAT is why it has stood the test of time for 50 years.

Enjoy....

Apple


A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.

- THOMAS JEFFERSON

Re: Ben Hur Tonight [Re: AppleOnYa] #556031
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Ben Hur ... and for those of you who seem to enjoy dwelling upon the subliminal homo-erotic themes, who cares.


Wouldn't it have been called "Ben Him", then?


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Not exactly...

You see, the film is named for its main character, Judah Ben Hur.

His servants are from the 'House of Hur'.

Not, 'Her'.


A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.

- THOMAS JEFFERSON

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OK...OK... but there's some religious significance in the movie, right?

How about "Ben Hymn", then?


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Jesus is in it, but you never really see his face.

And the score is wonderful, but nobody sings any hymns. Not even the Romans.


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- THOMAS JEFFERSON

Re: Ben Hur Tonight [Re: AppleOnYa] #556036
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Been watching BH. I saw it originally at the Warner Theater in downtown Pittsburgh. It was a sensation in our parishes just as with the Ten Commandments. Those were the days when theaters were plush and had balconies.


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ben hur is truely an epic, and this movie (along with ten commandments) made heston. and, i like how they never showed the face of jesus (even though idk why they dont).

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Originally Posted By: olivant
Those were the days when theaters were plush and had balconies.


And smoking was permitted in the balcony sick

Great film. I haven't seen it in years. Might have to buy that one go along with THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.


Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
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And let's not forget the chariot race--one of the most exciting scenes ever filmed, well worth the price of admission by itself. And done without any computer animation. Incredible!
Those Fifties and early Sixties epics were unsubtle, but always got their point across in the most lavish and satisfyingly entertaining ways.


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E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
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Re: Ben Hur Tonight [Re: Turnbull] #556229
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True TB. Today it's too attractive for movie makers to take the easy way out. But, that's the story about so much in today's society.


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Re: Ben Hur Tonight [Re: olivant] #556232
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I don't know if CGI is 'the easy way out'. It's certainly an economic issue, and Hollywood going down the profitable route is nothing new.

Hur is the epitome of the Biblical epic: bloated and insubstantial, with such a detailed eye and high production value that its style alone can easily sweep its audience away.

It may well be sincere, but it is bloated even so, to the point that almost every single scene unfolds in a succession of delayed responses and emotional overkill. It's heavy-going but at times lovely to look at - widescreen is used to great effect. The chariot race, which gets the second half after the intermission going, is mesmerising filmmaking, dramatic and drawn-out, but worth it all the same; and the sea battle, around halfway through the first half, is one of the rare moments in the film when Wyler intrudes upon the methodic rhythm and induces a hard-worn feeling by means of fast cutting and a relentless musical beat.

Relentless grandeur.


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Re: Ben Hur Tonight [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #556255
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Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
...It may well be sincere, but it is bloated even so...


And so are you. rolleyes


A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.

- THOMAS JEFFERSON

Re: Ben Hur Tonight [Re: AppleOnYa] #556258
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...dot com bold typeface rhetoric.
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'The hell you look like on a message board
Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
Re: Ben Hur Tonight [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #556270
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LOL^

I took three years of high school Latin and we watched Ben Hur each and every year. My teachers always said it offered a very accurate portrayal of Roman history and culture in EVERY detail. The entire film was shot in Italy with many of the scenes filmed amidst the Roman ruins as they then stood.

Some of the sites were recreated, of course, but if I remember correctly; the Roman Curia, which housed the Roman Senate, was actually used for the shooting. I can't remember which scenes precisely, but if you'll notice in the photo below, the signature marble tile floors of the Curia appear more than once in Ben Hur.




Re: Ben Hur Tonight [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #556276
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Another factor:
Before VCRs, Hollywood looked to a single feature run for "A" movies (i.e., released to selected downtown first-run houses), then to the "nabes," then they leased the films to syndicators, who released them to TV networks. Didn't much care what happened to the films after the first run.

But those grand biblical-type epics like "Ben Hur," "The Ten Commandments," "Spartacus," etc., were "special"; they played limited engagements in only one downtown grand movie theater in one city at one time, and sold assigned seat tickets in advance. Even when they were released to the nabes, the nabes sold advance tickets--unheard of. As a result, the studios came to believe that those films had intrinsic value over the usual ones. That's why, over the years, they've maintained quality prints that show well on TV, and that have been made into high-quality DVDs and tapes. My DVD of "Ten Commandments" is one of the most beautiful in my collection.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Originally Posted By: Turnbull
... My DVD of "Ten Commandments" is one of the most beautiful in my collection.


Ooh...I should get that.

I have very few DVD's, and the ones I do have I don't watch very often. 'The Ten Commandments' sounds like one that would be a collectible, and there would be much more to see than on that annual Easter airing on network television.

Thanks for the idea, Turnbull!!

Apple


A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.

- THOMAS JEFFERSON

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You're welcome, Apple! smile
Because the studio continually restored prints of "Ten Commandments," the DVD had excellent basic material to work with. Cecil B. DeMille lavished incredible attention (and money) on that movie. His attention to detail is unbelievable. If you buy the DVD, check the scene where Moses confronts Pharoah after the tenth and final plague. Just look at the detail! Unsurpassed!
Definitely worth your investment.


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Ben Hur Tonight [Re: SC] #556348
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Originally Posted By: SC

How about "Ben Hymn", then?


You're starting to sound Ben Gay tongue lol.


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I thought I seen him at Benihana tongue lol


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Originally Posted By: Turnbull
...If you buy the DVD, check the scene where Moses confronts Pharoah after the tenth and final plague. Just look at the detail! Unsurpassed!
Definitely worth your investment.


I will!!

And if I don't buy it myself, Santa will hopefully leave it under the tree!

Apple


A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.

- THOMAS JEFFERSON


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