I live in San Francisco and I frequent an Irish bar called the Holy Grail and the guy that owns it tells me he has the Irish mob protecting his place and he wasnt lying when I saw a couple guys in leather jackets beat up some drunks outside so if anybody has anything on the irish mob please let me know

I haven't rad either of these but Black Massby Dick Lehr and The Westies by T.J English are held in high regard as books about the Irish mob which I have taken a liking to in the past few weeks. Those two are where to go if you need stuff on the irish mafia.

The Irish mob still exsists in california it must be a small crew thing i guess they are into knock offs and moonshine

I guess all the irish mob publicity in movies really hyped it up for the irish like the godfather did to the italians

The Holy Grail has been closed for more than a year.

I doubt very seriously there is any organized Irish mob in SF.

O'Reilly's Bar and all the irish bookies in the bay area

ur right its fuckin right its closed i hadnt been there since 2006 shit

The only Irish gang in the SF Bay Area is F.A.I.M. It stands for Family Ariented Irish Mob. They're out of Campbell, Richmond and San Francisco. But they're just a street gang with maybe 60-80 members. These guys were not an Organized Crime group, though.

I knew it street gangs even irish ones outnumber the fat old white italian guys 10 to one and i don't think i could shave my head for that skin head gang it doesn't compare to real irish oc plus most irish criminals i know are connected to lots of races there is no other way i mean not many full irish people still live in the bay area white is the minority ehtnic street gangs rule now

I would never join an irish criminal group though thats fuckin stupid cuz once ur dead there is no comin back fuck that shit and i wouldn't want to be punked in prison either

Italian is not really white. For sure we're not as pale skinned as an Irish person. Except the black Irish are pretty tan i will say. However, they can only be seen in Galway and near by towns. I've met some who are mixed with black Irish blood here, but not full blooded ones. Now the usual red headed or blond haired Irish dude on the other hand are as white as it gets.

Not all Italians are fat either. That was not very kind bro.

i am not full white i have .01 percent spanish blood and i hail from donegal on my mom's side i don't know where my dad' side comes from and i only meant italian mobsters were fat not normal italians i mean look at the sopranos they don't work hard

The sopranos is a TV show.

um they are like that in real life i mean the sopranos isn't based on goosebumps they are fat guys sitting around playing cards

And you think the Irish are any different? Regardless of nationality they are both criminal organizations and I bet you the micks are just as bloated as the Italians

last thing i ain't defendin people who hurt others but they do a lot more stuff they are street guys they don't wear suits all day and a few are well built but in no way bloated a bit of belly but under 220 not fuckin a 400 pound greaseball in a custom made suit made from elephant hide sitting on a chair built for three wonderin if this single mother is gonna pay him back

i don't know any irish guys that had heart problems or died eating a cannoli but i know a lot of fat mafia guys...

Do you think ALL Italians are like that?!

fuck no i know a lot of italian guys i live in north beach i am just talkin about mob guys

So you think all Mafiosi are like that, then?

pretty much yah they are all like that even the mafia wannabes at little caesars they all like that except for the non italians most of the other ethnic groups work their ass off

So you think that EVERY Italian Mafiosi is a fat slob?

just got heart and weight problems not neccessarily a slob per say i mean they are neater than irish folk i have to wear a bib wherever i go so does my friend keon

i mean whitey bulger was a health nut and still lives at 89 years old and "fat tony" dies of a heart attack at age 47

What about:

Carlo Gambino?
Lucky Luciano?
Vito Genovese?
Salvatore Maranzano?

What about:

Joe Profaci?
Tommy Gagliano?
Bugsy Siegel?
Albert Anastasia?
Frank Costello?


Is that enough skinny FAMOUS Italian Mafiosi? you want more?

Ciro Terranova?
Jack Diamond?
Phil Testa?
Sal Testa?
Frank Scalice?
Joe Adonis?


I could go on if you want

they were all street guys and most of em ate nothin they were ancient vampires they only drank baby's blood and the sweat of hard working poor folk and young guys don't count they got bigger and like i said most of them

hey bugsy was jewish he don't count

HEY JACK DIAMON LEGS WAS IRISH

jackie diamond was irish

and old guys don't count i mean if ur 200 years old u gotta be skinny lickin tears and baby blood