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Steve McNair shot and killed!!!! #547566
07/04/09 05:44 PM
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Holy freaking crap! As a Ravens fan, I'm gutted. frown

Former NFL quarterback McNair killed in Tennessee
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posted: 7 MINUTES AGO

NASHVILLE, Tenn.(AP) Former NFL MVP Steve McNair has been shot and killed.
Titans owner Bud Adams confirmed the quarterback's death in a brief statement released Saturday.
Adams called him ``one of the finest players to play for our organization and one of the most beloved players by our fans. He played with unquestioned heart and leadership and led us to places that we had never reached, including our only Super Bowl.''
McNair led the Titans within a yard of forcing overtime in the 2000 Super Bowl.

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Former Tennessee Titans quarterback Steve McNair has been killed, a source has confirmed to ESPN.com.

McNair, 36, suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the head in downtown Nashville, police spokesperson Don Aaron said. A female victim was also found dead. Aaron said the woman has not been identified, pending notification of next of kin.

The incident happened near 2nd South & Lea Ave in Nashville.

McNair played 13 seasons in the NFL, 11 were with the Titans. He played his final two years with the Baltimore Ravens, retiring after the 2007 season.

"We are saddened and shocked to hear the news of Steve McNair's passing today," Titans owner K.S. "Bud" Adams Jr. said in a statement. "He was one of the finest players to play for our organization and one of the most beloved players by our fans. He played with unquestioned heart and leadership and led us to places that we had never reached, including our only Super Bowl. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family as they deal with his untimely passing."

McNair was picked third overall in the 1995 draft out of Alcorn State by the then Houston Oilers.

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Re: Steve McNair shot and killed!!!! [Re: Beth E] #547568
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They say its a murder-suicide with a woman...but who was the murderer?

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They say that, then they say double murder. Plus, they could have been killed yesterday and just found today.


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Re: Steve McNair shot and killed!!!! [Re: Beth E] #547570
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frown I always liked McNair.


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Re: Steve McNair shot and killed!!!! [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #547575
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
They say its a murder-suicide with a woman...but who was the murderer?


I don't know how much this holds water but all the headlines say he was murdered. I'd think the cops would have evidence if he had killed himself, so if it wasn't a double murder I assume the woman killed him, then herself.


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Re: Steve McNair shot and killed!!!! [Re: Beth E] #547582
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wtf...i mean it wtf is going on. just sad. great talent, and could be on the edge to make to the hall. RIP.

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A few comments from Ravens players.


Derrick Mason:

“Steve was such a happy person. I even called him ‘Smile.’ He was always smiling and was always willing to lend a hand to anyone who needed it. I’ve known him for 13 years, and he was the most selfless, happiest and friendliest person I have known. His family and my family are close, and it is a blow to us all. It is a devastating day. Steve will always have a place in my heart. My family and I are hurting for his family. Our thoughts and prayers are with them.

“On the field, there isn’t player that was as tough as him, especially at the quarterback position. What I have seen him play through on the field, and what he dealt with during the week to get ready for a game, I have never known a better teammate.”

Samari Rolle:

“Steve was the ultimate man, first of all. I played with Steve every year of my career, except for two, and got to know his family during that time. He was such a good family man. My prayers are with them at this tough time. I still can’t even believe it. To lose such a good friend and a good man so soon doesn’t make sense.

“If you were going to draw a football player, the physical part, the mental part, everything about being a professional, he is your guy. I can’t even wrap my arms around it. It is a sad, sad day. The world lost a great man today.”

Ozzie Newsome, Ravens executive vice president and general manager:

“This is so, so sad. We immediately think of his family, his boys. They are all in our thoughts and prayers. What we admired most about Steve when we played against him was his competitive spirit, and we were lucky enough to have that with us for two years. He is one of the best players in the NFL over the last 20 years... He was a great player, one of the toughest of competitors, and a tremendous teammate, who was a leader on the field and in the locker room, especially to the young players.”


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Re: Steve McNair shot and killed!!!! [Re: Beth E] #547586
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if reports are true mcnair was killed, and if it is true then it could be the woman that killed him or somebody else who got away.
i just wonder who the woman is, and what her connections to steve is.

mcnair recently opened a restraunt on the 19 as well.

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Former Ravens coach Brian Billick giving an interview on McNair.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81124733/Billick-on-McNair-s-death


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Sad news RIP..


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Re: Steve McNair shot and killed!!!! [Re: DE NIRO] #547604
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Absolutely shocking!

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The girl he was found with was 20 years old. 20 years old Steve!!! If she didn't kill him then herself, it looks like someone found out about them being together and didn't like it.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07052009/news/nationalnews/nfl_qb_murder_mystery_177751.htm


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Re: Steve McNair shot and killed!!!! [Re: Beth E] #547608
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Originally Posted By: Beth E
The girl he was found with was 20 years old. 20 years old Steve!!! If she didn't kill him then herself, it looks like someone found out about them being together and didn't like it.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07052009/news/nationalnews/nfl_qb_murder_mystery_177751.htm


reports are saying that steve has mutiple gun shots, and one gun shot in the head. the woman only has one gun shot in the head. the gun is found nearby the woman. this could a muder-suicide or a double murder that was tried to be a cover up.

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Well, using my knowledge of LAW & ORDER episodes, my assumption is that she wanted him to leave his wife for her...and he wouldn't. She got mad.

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or a jealous ex-boyfriend. i was reading another forum (dont know if its a rule to post other forum links or not). i guess the ex knocked the door of the place where they would die at on saturday morning. that alone makes him at the crime scene. if the time of death is saturday morning then we have another suspect.

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I was surprised, I liked McNair even as a division rival.

Seems like something fishy when police say there's no suspects and they aren't looking for any though.




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it shouldnt be hard to figure out who used the gun...the girlfriend or the ex boy friend. if its neither of them well then the police work is going to be alot harder then.

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They did say the gun was found by her. But like it was said, the killer could have just put the gun next to her body. Forensics evidence will show if she had powder burns from firing a gun.


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Forensic tests can conclusively determine that the girl fired the gun.

I was surprised to learn of his death, and shocked by the circumstances.

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everybody has to be shocked...this is more shocking than jackson's death.

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Well, McNair couldn't have killed her and killed himself cause he was shot 4 times. Twice in the head. I'm getting more convinced she killed them both. But what the hell would a 20 year be carrying a gun with her going to visit her lover. Unless he kept a gun there.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07052009/news/nationalnews/not_looking_for_any_suspects__177757.htm


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Here' s a picture of Steven and the girl on vacation a few months ago. As a wife, how do you not suspect something when your husband is away from you for certain amounts of time, and you don't know where they are? Do they just turn a blind eye, or just don't care?

http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/05/mcnair-and-his-friend-before-the-shootings/


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beth if i heard right they are seperated not divorced or something like that. this isnt a 100% correct though.

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Ok, I never heard of them being divorced or separated. That makes some difference. Although the cops said the wife was devasted.


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well if you were divorced and your ex was murdered would you be devasted too. by the end of the week we will know more about this. o yea i almost forgot another thing i heard...but dont know if its true. i guess the girl friend was planning on breaking up with steve...if that is true then something went wrong (this seems like just a rumor, but you never know).

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Are you asking hyperthically, or specifically to Mrs. McNair? Me personally I'd be dancing in the street. hee hee.

I guess my thing is your reaction would vary from the death of a loving spouse to an ex. I might be sad, but not beyond consolation.


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well yea it depends of how it ended i guess...like i said before we will find out the situation with his wife if they are seperated, beginning the process, or just had a blind eye. along with the situation with the gun and who fired it hopefully it is the logical one of the woman, but if its not i will pin the murders on the ex-boyfriend. but, lets just wait for that.

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McNair and his wife were still very married from interviews given by people. In this New York post story the girl's sister said he promised her he'd get divorced, but there was no record of him ever filing.

She was a 20 year old sleeping with a married man and believed the oldest line in the book. So he probably told her he wasn't getting divorced....and we know the rest of the story.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07062009/news/nationalnews/mcnairs_divorce_promise_177820.htm


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