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John Gotti after been beaten up #542043
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This is a rare pic of Gotti after being physically assaulted, who ever thought of this happening to Gotti.

Heres the link to the pic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GottiPrison.jpg

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i cant see the image.

Could you check and fix it please smile

Re: John Gotti after been beaten up [Re: Alive4Kill] #542045
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I think this is the photo that he's referring to:





Apparently Gotti mouthed off to the wrong dude.


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Not a very "bella figura", huh?

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Originally Posted By: SC

Apparently Gotti mouthed off to the wrong dude.



I don't know about that SC. Looks to me like he actually did use his head.





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Barely looks like the same guy. Could just be the flash of the camera.
Looks so skinny and young.


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Originally Posted By: veneratio
Barely looks like the same guy. Could just be the flash of the camera. Looks so skinny and young.


It got worse. This (below) is generally accepted as his last public picture ... he died shortly afterwards (from cancer):



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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: veneratio
Barely looks like the same guy. Could just be the flash of the camera. Looks so skinny and young.


It got worse. This (below) is generally accepted as his last public picture ... he died shortly afterwards (from cancer):



He looks 91! Not 61... Incredible.
I almost feel sorry for him.


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yeah he looks way older..

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Exact photo.

The guy did seem like he mouthed off to the wrong guy.
Won't be surprised if they raped him.


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i saw a better quality pic of that photo somewhere...the beaten one




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well share it then longneck ... I've been waiting for a week now tongue


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I saw his "last photo" awhile back. It's sad to see him like that at only 61 years old. I have sympathy for anyone who is sick. Poor guy.


You know, we always called each other good fellas. Like you said to, uh, somebody, :You're gonna like this guy. He's all right. He's a good fella. He's one of us.: You understand? We were good fellas.
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I know somebody who was locked up with Gotti in Marion Prison from 1993 until his release in 1998. He said their cell block housed 20 inmates (10 upstairs and 10 downstairs) and they lived in one man cells. His discription of Gotti was that he was a pretty friendly guy. But that he never wanted people asking him questions about his organized crime past. He said one time he had no money on his books and Gotti bought him two bags of coffee off his canteen, which came once a week. They were on 23 hour a day lock down and the only time he saw Gotti is when he came out for his 1 hour of free time. They saw and talked to eachother through a square of thick plastic that was directly in the middle of their cell doors.

I did ask him once about the fight between the black inmate and Gotti. He told me that it was all over a tv. There was a tv that was placed on the cell blocks wall for inmates to watch during the day while they were in their cells. Gotti basically controlled the tv and housing area. There was a new trustee that the prison staff placed in their cell block. A trustee is a worker from general population that is trusted by prison staff. The new trustee was sweeping the cell block floor one day and Gotti asked him to change the channell on the tv. But the trustee didn't do it. So Gotti called him a fuckin ni**er and said if he ever came in contact with him he would kick his ass. Two weeks later Gotti went out for his free time and the trustee was just leaving the housing area after cleaning and Gotti called him a ni**er again. After that they both got into eachothers face. My friend could not see everything 'cause he lived on the second floor and Gotti lived on the first. But said he saw Gotti the next day and he looked pretty banged up. Gotti also had cancer and was really sick during that time. If he was a lot younger and more fit I'm sure the black guy would've been beaten up. The prison staff moved the trustee to another prison for his safety just one month later. I heard that Gotti paid the Aryan Brotherhood to murder the inmate, but the hit never happened.





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Really? If that's the case, the bastard deserved to get his ass kicked. I never understood how the public could love a scumbag like John Gotti

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Originally Posted By: German_Italian
Really? If that's the case, the bastard deserved to get his ass kicked. I never understood how the public could love a scumbag like John Gotti


Yeah! I didn't believe this guy at first but he started sounding really convinsing later. He did show me his old prison ID card from Marion Prison and some other proof. He's also an old outlaw biker kind of guy.....

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Originally Posted By: Mark
Not a very "bella figura", huh?


Si! No bello figuri.....

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Originally Posted By: DiMaggio68
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Really? If that's the case, the bastard deserved to get his ass kicked. I never understood how the public could love a scumbag like John Gotti


Yeah! I didn't believe this guy at first but he started sounding really convinsing later. He did show me his old prison ID card from Marion Prison and some other proof. He's also an old outlaw biker kind of guy.....




Wasn't Gotti married to a Jew?



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Originally Posted By: Don Cardi


Wasn't Gotti married to a Jew?


I think I read that she's of a Jewish background, DC. But she doesn't have Jewish blood.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Don Cardi


Wasn't Gotti married to a Jew?


I think I read that she's of a Jewish background, DC. But she doesn't have Jewish blood.



So that makes his daughter Victoria half jewish, right?



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Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.




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I don't have access to the relevant books now but my understanding is that Victoria Gotti (nee DiGregorio) is half Jewish and half Italian. So her daughter Vikki is mostly Italian.


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Yeah, that "last" picture of Gotti, he does look pretty bad; more like his ugly brother Pete then any of his slightly better looking brothers. Almost unrecognizable as himself. Didn't he have part of his jaw removed? That explains a little, i guess, but he looked so haggard.
I guess that's what jail does to people. In the first one, the photo where he's bleeding, he's still recognizable, though a little thinner and greyer. You can see the rage and humiliation in his eyes. With the story behind it, it was that which made me first feel a little sympathetic for the guy; i mean he's doing his time, he doesn't need to cop that sorta shit.

"Oz" is supposed to be fiction, an exaggeration of prison life, but here you had a famous mobster being assaulted by a black gangster, and vengeance sought via the Aryan Brotherhood, who some say set the whole thing up in order to levy a previously refused "protection" tax on Gotti!

Anyhoo, what always got me was the his son, Jr, was half Jewish as well.
No one seemed to care about that. Another funy thing, though unrelated (sorry), was Nino Gaggi telling Roy DeMeo, once he had been finally "made", that although he was now a Soldier, he could never progress, for "only Sicilians can become Capo's in this Family"
John Gotti Sr. is, of course, Napolitan.

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Thanks for sharing that blurb on nino gaggi and roy demeo i never kenw gaggi said that before...


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Don Cardi


Wasn't Gotti married to a Jew?


I think I read that she's of a Jewish background, DC. But she doesn't have Jewish blood.


Let it go PB, please don't get involved in my beefs. What I wrote on the other thread was "There's Russian that have a Jewish background, but most of them (Russians) don't have Jewish blood." Russians got it??

Junior Gotti and Victoria are 75% Italiano.

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It happens when an Italian big mouth cowboy thinks he's better then everyone. That black guy must had split his shit and he's still smiling just to save face. I really can't believe how an Italian can think he or she is "Mr. Whitey" himself. The Irish are more Anglo Saxon then they'll ever be. Gotti most had looked like a fool to not only himself, but others for trying to sneak that gun in to get revenge because an inmate handed his ass to him on a platter. I wonder how he felt when he got his ass kicked and he couldn't do anything about it, And for him to say he's a street guy he should know a ass kick'en is an ass kick'en get over tough guy.



P.S That's why his hair fell out, it wasn't the cancer....

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Originally Posted By: Alspill
It happens when an Italian big mouth cowboy thinks he's better then everyone. That black guy must had split his shit and he's still smiling just to save face. I really can't believe how an Italian can think he or she is "Mr. Whitey" himself. The Irish are more Anglo Saxon then they'll ever be. Gotti most had looked like a fool to not only himself, but others for trying to sneak that gun in to get revenge because an inmate handed his ass to him on a platter. I wonder how he felt when he got his ass kicked and he couldn't do anything about it, And for him to say he's a street guy he should know a ass kick'en is an ass kick'en get over tough guy.



P.S That's why his hair fell out, it wasn't the cancer....
let me tell you that prison is a whole different world than the street..yeah gotti was a stupid flashy boss and could have anyone done in on the street, but in prison you're not with a crew..as far as his getting his ass kicked, thats not a big deal...ANYONE who has ever fought a good amount of fights and said they have never lost is a straight up liar..sorry it dont happen like that in the street or prison world..there is always someone out there who thrives on someone who thinks their hard.. as far as the gotti thing goes, no one knows because no one was there to witness it..there are alot of things that could come into to play like who got the first hit ect..i know if i get the first i'm going to do some damage no matter who you are..some people with reps like gotti think that who they are is going to scare the person off and it dont work like that on the inside..
not trying to be a wiseguy but it is 2 different worlds as far as the street and prison goes..also marion is a max joint with lots of cold blooded people there..only my 2 cents

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Originally Posted By: tattoo_mafia
Originally Posted By: Alspill
It happens when an Italian big mouth cowboy thinks he's better then everyone. That black guy must had split his shit and he's still smiling just to save face. I really can't believe how an Italian can think he or she is "Mr. Whitey" himself. The Irish are more Anglo Saxon then they'll ever be. Gotti most had looked like a fool to not only himself, but others for trying to sneak that gun in to get revenge because an inmate handed his ass to him on a platter. I wonder how he felt when he got his ass kicked and he couldn't do anything about it, And for him to say he's a street guy he should know a ass kick'en is an ass kick'en get over tough guy.



I agree. When Gotti became the boss his ego became as big as the state of New York. I listened to his jail tapes after the beating and he talks about how "important" he is. He learned that when he was on the inside in the 90's he didn't have the protection he may of had when he did his jail time in the 70's.



P.S That's why his hair fell out, it wasn't the cancer....
let me tell you that prison is a whole different world than the street..yeah gotti was a stupid flashy boss and could have anyone done in on the street, but in prison you're not with a crew..as far as his getting his ass kicked, thats not a big deal...ANYONE who has ever fought a good amount of fights and said they have never lost is a straight up liar..sorry it dont happen like that in the street or prison world..there is always someone out there who thrives on someone who thinks their hard.. as far as the gotti thing goes, no one knows because no one was there to witness it..there are alot of things that could come into to play like who got the first hit ect..i know if i get the first i'm going to do some damage no matter who you are..some people with reps like gotti think that who they are is going to scare the person off and it dont work like that on the inside..
not trying to be a wiseguy but it is 2 different worlds as far as the street and prison goes..also marion is a max joint with lots of cold blooded people there..only my 2 cents

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Originally Posted By: DiMaggio68
I know somebody who was locked up with Gotti in Marion Prison from 1993 until his release in 1998. He said their cell block housed 20 inmates (10 upstairs and 10 downstairs) and they lived in one man cells. His discription of Gotti was that he was a pretty friendly guy. But that he never wanted people asking him questions about his organized crime past. He said one time he had no money on his books and Gotti bought him two bags of coffee off his canteen, which came once a week. They were on 23 hour a day lock down and the only time he saw Gotti is when he came out for his 1 hour of free time. They saw and talked to eachother through a square of thick plastic that was directly in the middle of their cell doors.

I did ask him once about the fight between the black inmate and Gotti. He told me that it was all over a tv. There was a tv that was placed on the cell blocks wall for inmates to watch during the day while they were in their cells. Gotti basically controlled the tv and housing area. There was a new trustee that the prison staff placed in their cell block. A trustee is a worker from general population that is trusted by prison staff. The new trustee was sweeping the cell block floor one day and Gotti asked him to change the channell on the tv. But the trustee didn't do it. So Gotti called him a fuckin ni**er and said if he ever came in contact with him he would kick his ass. Two weeks later Gotti went out for his free time and the trustee was just leaving the housing area after cleaning and Gotti called him a ni**er again. After that they both got into eachothers face. My friend could not see everything 'cause he lived on the second floor and Gotti lived on the first. But said he saw Gotti the next day and he looked pretty banged up. Gotti also had cancer and was really sick during that time. If he was a lot younger and more fit I'm sure the black guy would've been beaten up. The prison staff moved the trustee to another prison for his safety just one month later. I heard that Gotti paid the Aryan Brotherhood to murder the inmate, but the hit never happened.






Very interesting and thanks for posting this info. This version sounds more real than the others.

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Originally Posted By: tattoo_mafia
Originally Posted By: Alspill
It happens when an Italian big mouth cowboy thinks he's better then everyone. That black guy must had split his shit and he's still smiling just to save face. I really can't believe how an Italian can think he or she is "Mr. Whitey" himself. The Irish are more Anglo Saxon then they'll ever be. Gotti most had looked like a fool to not only himself, but others for trying to sneak that gun in to get revenge because an inmate handed his ass to him on a platter. I wonder how he felt when he got his ass kicked and he couldn't do anything about it, And for him to say he's a street guy he should know a ass kick'en is an ass kick'en get over tough guy.



P.S That's why his hair fell out, it wasn't the cancer....
let me tell you that prison is a whole different world than the street..yeah gotti was a stupid flashy boss and could have anyone done in on the street, but in prison you're not with a crew..as far as his getting his ass kicked, thats not a big deal...ANYONE who has ever fought a good amount of fights and said they have never lost is a straight up liar..sorry it dont happen like that in the street or prison world..there is always someone out there who thrives on someone who thinks their hard.. as far as the gotti thing goes, no one knows because no one was there to witness it..there are alot of things that could come into to play like who got the first hit ect..i know if i get the first i'm going to do some damage no matter who you are..some people with reps like gotti think that who they are is going to scare the person off and it dont work like that on the inside..
not trying to be a wiseguy but it is 2 different worlds as far as the street and prison goes..also marion is a max joint with lots of cold blooded people there..only my 2 cents


Gotti was like 55 years old at the time, and the black dude was like 28, so that might have influenced the outcome just a little!
Regardless, for an egomaniacal mob boss like Gotti, getting beaten up like that had to hurt his pride more than his head. And what a reality check for John: he still had the "boss" mentality but he didn't have the "boss" backing like he did when he was out on the streets. Having a small army around you does wonders for a guy's sense of confidence and toughness!!

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