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LINCOLN vs. OBAMA #537809
04/17/09 11:45 AM
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Could somebody please pass this along to our 44th President, who wants everybody to liken him to our 16th President:

" You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift."
" You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong."

" You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer."

" You cannot further the brotherhood of man by encouraging class hatred."

" You cannot help the poor by destroying th rich."

" You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than you earn."

" You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and independence."

" You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves."

ALL QUOTES ABOVE BY ABRAHAM LINCOLN


A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.

- THOMAS JEFFERSON

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: AppleOnYa] #537810
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Nice quotes, but Lincoln never said any of this. Please re-check your source.

Mine: Boller, Paul F., Jr., and John George. They Never Said It: A Book Of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, & Misleading Attributions (New York: Oxford University Press, 1989), pp. 82-84, 145.


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: Saladbar] #537829
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...dot com bold typeface rhetoric.
You go clickety click and get your head split.
'The hell you look like on a message board
Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #537840
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Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra


There's nothing better than a Ninja Cat.


So die all who betray Giuliano
Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: Turi Giuliano] #537848
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I'd put "pwn3d dogs" up there with "ninja cats".


...dot com bold typeface rhetoric.
You go clickety click and get your head split.
'The hell you look like on a message board
Discussing whether or not the Brother is hardcore?
Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #537852
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Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
I'd put "pwn3d dogs" up there with "ninja cats".


Poor dog, he thought he could kick that pussy around. Guess not.

Oh and AppleonYa, welcome back to BB.Net, though like Michael Jackson's last album.....rather disapointing launch.

But hey you'll do better next time, and bring Bubbles too!

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #537856
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Don't forget - Kennedy was shot in a Lincoln and Lincoln was shot in the FORD theater. They both had VPs named Johnson! Both Mary Todd Lincoln and Jackie Kennedy lost a child in the White House. They were both killed by men with three names who were themselves killed afterwards!

Oh, sorry, wrong presidents.


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: Sicilian Babe] #537885
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Hey, how's it going?
Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: Sicilian Babe] #537891
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was their also a staff memeber named kennedy for lincoln, and somebody named lincoln for kennedy? lol

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: BAM_233] #537899
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Yes. Evelyn Lincoln was Kennedy's secretary.

Don't forget that Lincoln's assassin shot him from a theatre and ran to hide in a warehouse while Kennedy's assassin shot him from a warehouse and hid in a theatre.

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: klydon1] #537901
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Also.... Lincoln was in Monroe, Maryland a week before he was shot. Kennedy was in Marilyn Monroe a week before he was shot. whistle


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: SC] #537905
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Originally Posted By: SC
Also.... Lincoln was in Monroe, Maryland a week before he was shot. Kennedy was in Marilyn Monroe a week before he was shot. whistle


lol clap


The hero and the coward both feel the same thing, but the hero uses his fear, projects it onto his opponent, while the coward runs. It's the same thing, fear, but it's what you do with it that matters. Cus D'Amato
Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: whisper] #537926
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Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.

Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.

Both were shot in the head.

Lincoln's secretary, Kennedy, warned him not to go to the theatre.
Kennedy's secretary, Lincoln, warned him not to go to Dallas.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.

Both were succeeded by Southerners.

Both successors were named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.

Both names are comprised of fifteen letters

Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.
Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: olivant] #537929
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Interesting to list any likenesses between Obama/Lincoln. Off the top of my head, without looking anything up:

1. Both from Illinois (although born in other states)
2. Both took oath of office on the same bible
3. Both are tall tongue (anyone know actual heights. Lincoln was very tall I believe)

Ok, that's all I can think of this early. Can anyone else think of likenesses. I'm guessing there is much more.

TIS

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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #537937
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i dont think obama likes to wrestle like lincoln, so i cant think of anything else. lol

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: BAM_233] #537938
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Originally Posted By: BAM_233
i dont think obama likes to wrestle like lincoln, so i cant think of anything else. lol


Yea, but Lincoln was really into Basketball I hear. lol




TIS


"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #537939
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Interesting to list any likenesses between Obama/Lincoln. Off the top of my head, without looking anything up:

1. Both from Illinois (although born in other states)
2. Both took oath of office on the same bible
3. Both are tall tongue (anyone know actual heights. Lincoln was very tall I believe)

Ok, that's all I can think of this early. Can anyone else think of likenesses. I'm guessing there is much more.

TIS


Both were lawyers and both served in the Illinois state legislature.

Lincoln, by the way, was our tallest president at 6'4". That height in the 1850s was as common as 6'8-9" would be today. When he ran against and beat George McClellan in 1864, it marked the largest height differential between presidential candidates. Bush towered over Dukakis, and made a point not to allow Dukakis to escape his presence too quickly before and after debates.
The next tallest president was Lyndon Johnson, who at 6'3" was half an inch taller than Thomas Jefferson and Bill Clinton. Presidents, who were 6'2", are Bush (H.W.), Arthur, FDR and Washington. They were half an inch taller than Obama and Reagan.

Also, Michelle Obama is the second tallest first lady, less than an inch behindElanor Roosevelt, who many believe is the greatest first lady.

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: klydon1] #537941
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Thanks Kly,

Just out of curiosity, do you know who the shortest President was and how short?


smile
TIS


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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #537942
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I certainly never knew that Eleanor Roosevelt was tall! That must have really been difficult to hide, too, since they mostly showed FDR sitting down. Since there are so few videos, and mostly stills that I've seen of her, I never realized Eleanor was that tall.

And she truly was a great lady.


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #537943
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Just out of curiosity, do you know who the shortest President was and how short?


Dick Nixon. 4 inches. lol


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: SC] #537944
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Between Dick and Marilyn jokes, you are on quite the roll today, aren't you?? Take your funny pills this morning?? lol


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: SC] #537945
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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Just out of curiosity, do you know who the shortest President was and how short?


Dick Nixon. 4 inches. lol



Ha ha ha ha ha LMAO clap lol


TIS


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #537964
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Thanks Kly,

Just out of curiosity, do you know who the shortest President was and how short?


smile
TIS


James Madison, The Father of our Constitution, was the shortest (5'4") and the lightest, but he may have been the brightest. wink William Henry Harrison and Martin Van Buren were only 2 inches taller. I think the shortest of the 20th century was Jimmy Carter.

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: klydon1] #537966
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Thanks Kly,

Just out of curiosity, do you know who the shortest President was and how short?


smile
TIS


James Madison, The Father of our Constitution, was the shortest (5'4") and the lightest, but he may have been the brightest. wink William Henry Harrison and Martin Van Buren were only 2 inches taller. I think the shortest of the 20th century was Jimmy Carter.



Really? I had no idea Jimmy Carter was so short. What a peanut. Get it? tongue lol (I had an S.C. moment) wink Oh no, it's rubbing off.

TIS

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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #537970
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
I had no idea Jimmy Carter was so short. What a peanut. Get it?


lol clap


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: klydon1] #537972
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Originally Posted By: klydon1
James Madison, The Father of our Constitution, was the shortest (5'4") and the lightest, but he may have been the brightest. wink


I give the honor of brightest to Thomas Jefferson.

John Kennedy hosted a state dinner after taking office and had invited the brightest "brains" from around the world. There were about 50 living Nobel Prize winners plus artists like Pablo Picasso, Pablo Casals, Robert Frost and Isaac Stern. Kennedy went on to address the crowd and said, "the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone".

lol


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: SC] #537982
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thomas is the smartest, but i wonder who is the dumbest? lol

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: BAM_233] #537985
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Originally Posted By: BAM_233
thomas is the smartest, but i wonder who is the dumbest? lol


As Mr. Kotter's Sweathogs might say (raising my hand) Ooh ooh ooh!! lol



TIS


"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #537987
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Calm down, TIS Horshak. We all know it's "W".


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Re: LINCOLN vs. OBAMA [Re: SC] #537989
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I feel so enlightened now. It's all making sense. If Obama had an apostrophe after the "O" he could have been an Irishman and if Lincoln was shorter, Johnny Booth would have missed.


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