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Buckwheats
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12/20/08 08:36 PM
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This is a nice forum you have here. It would be a shame if anything were to happen to it... Hi! It's my first post!  I love the Valachi Papers and have a question regarding his term "buckwheats", meaning (as I understand it) making a victim's death extra painful. Has anyone come across buckwheats in any other gangster lit, or read where the term could have come from? I've got lots of gangster questions stored up in my head, and am glad to have found this forum. Thanks! Rich
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Re: Buckwheats
[Re: DE NIRO]
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12/20/08 09:18 PM
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The term is also referenced in the "Mafia Encyclopedia" by Carl Sifakis. Several examples are given but the only specific primary source listed is the Valachi Book. The Chicago Outfit evidently specialized in this sort of thing. Another pop culture reference was in the movie Things to Do in Denver When You're Dead when the quadriplegic mob boss, played by Christopher Walken, promises buckwheats for Andy Garcia's entire crew. Here's an interesting take on the origin of the term. http://moviesareonlyalife.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/give-it-a-name/
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Re: Buckwheats
[Re: Lompac]
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12/22/08 02:04 PM
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Tony said to Melfi: "I had a little conversation with buckwheat".
This means that Tony told Noah, Meadow's black boyfriend, to stay away from her.
So Lilo, ordering buckwheats on someone could mean that you would get your black friends to lay down a beating on someone. If I was you I'd rather have someone THINK I might be a little nuts rather than go out and prove them right. The term "buckwheats" as used in the original connotation of this thread's intent, has NOTHING to do with race. Tony Soprano used it as a derogatory term (about Noah) because it was the name of a Little Rascals character who was black.
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Re: Buckwheats
[Re: SC]
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12/22/08 06:21 PM
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Lilo
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Tony said to Melfi: "I had a little conversation with buckwheat".
This means that Tony told Noah, Meadow's black boyfriend, to stay away from her.
So Lilo, ordering buckwheats on someone could mean that you would get your black friends to lay down a beating on someone. If I was you I'd rather have someone THINK I might be a little nuts rather than go out and prove them right. Give it a name, SC.. I'm not sure where you're coming from Lompac. But whatever.
"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming
Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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