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Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool #515030
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From left to right: Ciro Terranova, Charles "Lucky" Luciano, Alphonse Capone.

http://gangstersinc.tripod.com/PhotooftheYear.html

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: GangstersInc] #515081
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Thats a very unique photo thanks for sharing..

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: GangstersInc] #515128
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Any idea where/when that picture was taken?

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: SC] #515133
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Just about the only time and place that Capone and Luciano might have been in a swimming pool together would have been the famous Atlantic City gangster convention of May, 1929. But I've yet to find a reference to Terranova being at that meeting. Also, Terranova would have been 40 in 1929, and the guy on the left looks older.

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: Turnbull] #515134
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That would've been my guess too, but likewise, I've never found any info on Terranova attending that conference.

In any event, the picture would have had to been taken prior to May, 1932 (when Capone started his prison sentence). Terranova died while Capone was still in prison and Luciano was in exile.

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: Turnbull] #518564
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Actually, I think there are all kinds of possibilities besides Atlantic City. Luciano wasn't really too well known in 1929 (if that's the year, which is not at all certain here) and could have travelled any number of places without getting noticed. One location might be Capone's Palm Island estate in Florida. Or could be in Cuba or the Bahamas or Hot Springs, Arkansas, all locations that were visited at one time or another (and probably on a number of occasions) by either Capone or Luciano. Then again, I'm not sure about the identification of Terranova. That could be someone else.

Does anyone have a documented original source for this photo?

Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Just about the only time and place that Capone and Luciano might have been in a swimming pool together would have been the famous Atlantic City gangster convention of May, 1929. But I've yet to find a reference to Terranova being at that meeting. Also, Terranova would have been 40 in 1929, and the guy on the left looks older.

Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: GangstersInc] #518644
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YOU BEET ME TO IT MAN ... I WAS GONA POST NOW ,,, i had this photo for 4 days no time to post and now here it is,,, anyways great photo smile

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: GangstersInc] #823473
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Originally Posted By: GangstersInc
From left to right: Ciro Terranova, Charles "Lucky" Luciano, Alphonse Capone.

http://gangstersinc.tripod.com/PhotooftheYear.html


That photo is no longer at that link. Does anyone know where it is?

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: Alfa Romeo] #823476
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I jumped out of my chair when i saw the name of the thread and i got disappointed...damn it

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: Benny3Balls] #823479
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thanks a lot man

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: Benny3Balls] #823480
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The owner of that photo has asked me to remove it from my website. I suggest the admins here do the same. Thanks.

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: Toodoped] #823481
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Originally Posted By: Toodoped
I jumped out of my chair when i saw the name of the thread and i got disappointed...damn it


I'm with you Toodoped. That is something to make you put the coffee down and pay attention.

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: GangstersInc] #823482
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Originally Posted By: GangstersInc
The owner of that photo has asked me to remove it from my website. I suggest the admins here do the same. Thanks.


Maybe the owner of the pic has it on their own website? Corbis? Getty?

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: Alfa Romeo] #823492
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Originally Posted By: Alfa Romeo
Maybe the owner of the pic has it on their own website? Corbis? Getty?


He's gonna put it in a museum, I believe. His great grandfather is in the photo and via via I got it in my possession. He asked me to delete it. The new photo posted above has been cropped from the original I posted back in the day, by the way.

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: GangstersInc] #823497
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Maybe the best idea is to sell it once and for all to a book author, or maybe start his own website and make people pay to see the photo (with "cannot be reproduced without website's permission"). Other than that, I don't see how else it can be monetized and/or chronicled.




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I didn't make it in time to see the photo. Ciro Terranova became one of my favorite mafia characters after the "Untouchables" episode (I doubt he was that funny in real life).

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Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: GangstersInc] #823525
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i'm sure the mob museum in Vegas would pay for rights to this photo
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404 error. Someone got another url
Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: Mattix] #823608
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Originally Posted By: Mattix
Actually, I think there are all kinds of possibilities besides Atlantic City. Luciano wasn't really too well known in 1929 (if that's the year, which is not at all certain here) and could have travelled any number of places without getting noticed. One location might be Capone's Palm Island estate in Florida. Or could be in Cuba or the Bahamas or Hot Springs, Arkansas, all locations that were visited at one time or another (and probably on a number of occasions) by either Capone or Luciano. Then again, I'm not sure about the identification of Terranova. That could be someone else.

Does anyone have a documented original source for this photo?

Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Just about the only time and place that Capone and Luciano might have been in a swimming pool together would have been the famous Atlantic City gangster convention of May, 1929. But I've yet to find a reference to Terranova being at that meeting. Also, Terranova would have been 40 in 1929, and the guy on the left looks older.


Too bad I didn't see this post back when my friend, the late, great Rick Mattix was still alive. He was a great true crime writer but passed away too soon on October 27, 2010. Anyway, the photo was taken at Al Capone's swimming pool in Florida.
Re: Lucky Luciano and Al Capone in a swimming pool [Re: Faithful1] #823624
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Originally Posted By: Faithful1
Originally Posted By: Mattix
Actually, I think there are all kinds of possibilities besides Atlantic City. Luciano wasn't really too well known in 1929 (if that's the year, which is not at all certain here) and could have travelled any number of places without getting noticed. One location might be Capone's Palm Island estate in Florida. Or could be in Cuba or the Bahamas or Hot Springs, Arkansas, all locations that were visited at one time or another (and probably on a number of occasions) by either Capone or Luciano. Then again, I'm not sure about the identification of Terranova. That could be someone else.

Does anyone have a documented original source for this photo?

Originally Posted By: Turnbull
Just about the only time and place that Capone and Luciano might have been in a swimming pool together would have been the famous Atlantic City gangster convention of May, 1929. But I've yet to find a reference to Terranova being at that meeting. Also, Terranova would have been 40 in 1929, and the guy on the left looks older.


Too bad I didn't see this post back when my friend, the late, great Rick Mattix was still alive. He was a great true crime writer but passed away too soon on October 27, 2010. Anyway, the photo was taken at Al Capone's swimming pool in Florida.


Rick was a great guy! One of the originals. Though he did not share this photo with me back in the day.

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