I knew that ages ago whe he got 5 life sentences under the age of 30.

He was not allowed to be made no matter what.

I know this but I'm curious as to what your answer is on why.

Stop getting your info from Wikipedia. Also, John's paternal grandmother's nationality/background is not known.

First of all I didn't get my info from Wikipedia and secondly John's paternal grandmother was Italian you idiot because his dad was made. Seems like you have a personal issue with this guy cause your answers on here are all incorrect....

First of all I didn't get my info from Wikipedia and secondly John's paternal grandmother was Italian you idiot because his dad was made. Seems like you have a personal issue with this guy cause your answers on here are all incorrect....

Figure it out yourself since you seem to think you know it all...

I can name others who are only Italian on their fathers side.

You two need to start playing nice. If you want to continue with the personal insults then take it off the boards.


Now, with that aside, neither of you are right, nor are you wrong about the requirements of becoming a made man in the MAFIA.


While there are no written rules or guidlelines for the MAFIA, we can only go by what is told, and most times embelished, by those who have turned rat or have infiltrated the underworld. Let's keep in mind that while these people have been referred to as men of honor, nothing could be more from the truth, and for many reasons. These people will rant about and advocate "TRADITION" and then throw that same tradition right out the window if that tradition does not suit their needs.

According to books that have been written and stories that have been told about the "traditional" MAFIA, one had to be completely 100% SICILIAN. In other words BOTH the mother AND the father had to be 100% sicilian.

Then as the old mustache petes began to pass away, and the mob became more americanized, they supposedly "eased up" on the rules of becoming a made man and made it where only your Father had to be a 100% sicilian and your mother just italian.

As the years went by and more and more americans became members of the mob, the whole sicilian requirement was completely abolished, the guidelines once again altered to suit the needs of those in power, and only one parent had to be a 100% italian.



After the infiltration by Joe "Donnie Brasco" Pistone, it is rumored that those still in power within the mob decided that one would be required to make his bones ( kill someone ) as part of the requirement for becoming a made man. This was supposedly done because according to Joe "Donnie Brasco" Pistone, he had planted himself so deeply in the family that they were one step away from making him a made man. Keep in mind that Brasco's MO with the mob was that he was an orphan, which would mean to the mob that he did not know his family origins. Yet according to Pistone, they were still willing to make him a made man. But Pistone was pulled from his undercover assignment before the mob inducted him into the family. After learning of his real identity the mob realized that they came very close to making an FBI agent a made man! It is alledged that the mob implemented the "one must make his bones and kill for us" rule after the near mistake of almost "making" Donnie Brasco. This rule was implemented so that they could prevent the possibility of any future undercover law enforcement agents from becoming "made" within the mob.

Then what happened a few years later? John Gotti, the mobster who supposedly was all for traditional La Cosa Nostra, came along and had the Boss of Bosses killed. He took over one of the most powerful and influential mafia families in the underworld, threw most of the so called mob tradition out the window, changed the unwritten rules to suit his needs and feed his ego, and basically decided that he'd make whomever he wanted a made man regardless of their background.

The truth is that when it comes to the mob, the rule is that there ain't no rules.

Yes! And another "rule" is: the boss can do whatever he wants to do, and make whomever he wants to make. As DC pointed out, nothing was known about "Brasco's" parentage, but he was going to be made anyway.

At that, it's better than following "rules." For example, the families were supposed to circulate the names of men they wanted to make among all the families to see if anyone had any objections or negative info on the prospective made men. So a list was put on paper--and the cops found it in Junior Gotti's possession. Oh, the dimwit...

1. His mother was jewish.
2. He was uncontrollable.

Pick one.

Uncontrollable how so?

Do any of you actually know John? He is a very sweet guy. I've known him for many years...I must say he would so not at all be amused by these posts about him.

Let's see. He was convicted of four murders, suspected in AT LEAST another 6, and he's serving 4 consecutive life sentences, plus 45 years. Yeah, he sounds like a real prince.

Darling, I do believe the question was do you actually know him? Not do you read the Newspaper. I'm smiling at you as I say this.

What difference does that make?

I don't know Charles Manson---who, by the way, was convicted of fewer murders than John---but I'm pretty sure he was a psychopath. And no, I don't know John. I'm quite a bit older than he is. But trust me, honey, I've known plenty of guys like him. And once you've met one murderous, psychopathic scumbag, you've met them all.

I'll say one thing, any one who picks the username Erotic Kitty has a great sense of humor, so keep smiling.

Welcome to the boards.

Thank you for the welcome pizzaboy....
John is nothing at all like Charlie. If they interest you, why don't you meet them?

I'm sure that he was a very sweet guy. In fact I'll bet that he was a really great guy......that is if you were not someone who had something that he wanted, stood in his way of doing business, refused to pay him protection money or declined to do something that he wanted you to do.

Believe me, I grew up around a lot of 'John Gottis' and almost all of them, on the surface, were really great people. But that doesn't mean that deep down they weren't cold blooded murders and / or bloodsucking leaches.

Dancing with the Devil can be fun...

Meow....

Yeah, and curiosity killed the cat.

Gee I don't know bout that. Last time I checked I was still alive and purring sweetly....

I think this thread should be put out of it's misery. This is all that asshole Lompac's doing anyway.

RIP

Erotickitty, you knew him? How sweet was he, cause he sounds mighty, mighty sweet to me.....

Are Erotic Kitty and Florida Girl one and the same?

We are absolutly not the same.....I think Erotic Kitty is gone, and I didn't ever know John....

Are all 3 of youz one and the same??

Haha what a call!

ah but satisfaction brought it back.