Speaking of history.....was Palin's hear from 2008 or 1968?

Better go get me a buzzcut.

You saw Palin today?

Maybe. But then that point adds no credence to your statement about a VP candidate being 'unknown' to the American Public.

By 1992, Qualyle had been VP for 4 years, and was VERY well known to the public.

Apple

And that's why they lost. Quayle was a quack!

Yes. She's a MILF. (can I say that?)

Quayle in 1988 was alot like Agnew in 1972, both fucking irrelevant to their candidate's victory.

Why Poppycock didn't dump Quayle, I'll never know.

Loyalty. Plain & simple.

It's all in Mary Matalin's book 'All's Fair - Love, War, and Running for President'...co-written with hubby James Carville about their budding romance while working for rival 1992 campaigns:

"Because his staff had been treated so badly (by the Reagan Administration), Bush was very good to Quayle. He also truly liked and respected the Vice President, and took his counsel. The rest of the President's staff was not always as generous."

There was talk of pulling Quayle as VP on the '92 ticket and moving to him a position in the President's Cabinet.

"Whatever the scenario, an absolute prerequisite was that Quayle himself step down voluntarily."

"Dan Quayle is an honorable guy. I believe if he had known empirically he was hurting Bush, and if a face-saving plan had been worked out, he would have pulled himself off the ticket. He said so that night on Larry King Live. He was never called upon to do so.

Apple

You could have saved yourself some typing and left it at that.

Because that sums it up nicely.

In that case....why are you here at all???

*****

By the way...just noticed my 'Registered' date.
Can't believe I've been a BB member for 7 years!!!

Happy Anniversary to ME !!!

I honestly don't believe that DJ has posted anything overtly racist. Even if I don't agree with all of his political views, I respect the kid for speaking his mind and not wavering on his opinions. Politicians (Republican OR Democrat) should have the same character. But we know they won't .

The two board's administrators disagree. One of the moderators disagrees. Some of the members have voiced disagreement.




No argument there.

Can we put this to rest and continue with what has otherwise been one of the best political threads in the board's history?

No argument here.

You say potatoe . . .

Happy anniversary, Apple.

This is certainly an historic election, and will be particularly memorable. I thought the last two would be hard to top.

McCain and his staff must see something in Palin, and I believe she will want to make a splash at the convention. She has to if the ticket is to be viable. McCain certainly can't match the excitement of Obama, and perhaps if he picked Ridge (who, I thought, would have been a very good running mate), he wouldn't have been able to break free from the "More of the Same" theme.

By the way, Biden, who is sometimes called Pennsylvania's third senator, will spend some time here. Like Hillary Clinton, Biden spent a part of his childhood in Scranton and still has family there. He'll surely rely on his roots to make an impact on an area that went decisively for Hillary in the primary.

...I say tomato

One thing to watch for is the fianncial impact that public campaign financing will have on McCain's ads, etc. Obama is flush with cash and will use it to unload on McCain after the Rep. convention. Of course, a financial variable is the amount of money raised by the RNC.

my girlfriend offered to make me a t-shirt with sarah palin's face on it that read "BAD ASS" underneath.

i thought that was pretty much awesome.

They'll just raise the price of gas to cover those expenses.

Ooops, sorry, wrong thread.

Its funny how in 2004, Kerry did what McCain is doing this election, while Obama now is like Bush 4 years ago....and Bush swamped and emptied his entire warchest and beat Kerry in states like Iowa, and almost in Minnesota.

Obama has the $$$, and he wants to win, and honestly I would have done the same thing. Sure it made him look like a dick for saying he wouldn't earlier, but again he don't wanna pull a Kerry.

Then again, who would?

Umm, I smell a good WHAT IF column....:)

I asked my Dad what he thought, and he said:

"McCain should have picked MICHAEL Palin."

"Alaskan State Senate President Lyda Green (R) said she thought it was a joke when someone called her at 6 a.m. to tell her the news.

"She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?" said Green, a Republican from Palin's hometown of Wasilla. "Look at what she's done to this state. What would she do to the nation?""

http://www.politico.com/blogs/scorecard/

Is there a problem when Hillary gives a warmer message of praise than your own state's major party leaders?

Anyway, the Obama campaign will run the shit probably out of this. I mean I would at least.

Typical example of the dignity of those representing the liberal left.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2008/20080830000004.aspx

What you expect from a fat asshole like Moore who shot a lame movie like CANADIAN BACON?

Anyone who laughs at anything that may once again put the citizens of New Orleans at risk is a jerk.

Yeah, not exactly something he should be joking about.

I wonder if the GOP will postpone their convention due to Gustav? It really creates a problem for them. They had it planned pretty well that Bush and Cheney would speak on Monday during the Holiday, when most people won't be around paying any attention. If they postpone it, it also creates a scheduling nightmare. If they go on with it and the hurricane hits, they won't get the headlines and TV coverage they so want.

McCain choosing Palin is a weak move for someone running on experience.

Obama choosing Biden was a weak move for someone running on changing Washington. But at least he's a solid pick.

VP Edge: Obama

Obama had little choice, even running on change. He needed "experience" on the ticket.

McCain, I'm not so sure what he was thinking. I can only assume he wanted to appeal to the hardcore social conservatives and some of the Hillary supporters. In doing so, he chose someone that IMO is in no way qualified to be President if she had to be.

...And I don't want to hear that she "has more experience than Obama". Being the mayor of a small town that literally has more moose than people, does not give you the experience to be President of the United States.

Turn the GOP convention into a telethon?

Gustav prompts talk of altering RNC agenda

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- As Hurricane Gustav's power increased and the storm bore down on the Gulf Coast, Republicans grappled Saturday with problems both logistical and political.

Sen. John McCain's campaign manager, Rick Davis, plans to meet with officials in charge of the party's convention planning in Minneapolis-St. Paul on Sunday to review the latest news on Hurricane Gustav and what their options might be and then consult with the presumptive presidential nominee to determine what changes may need to be made.

"I wouldn't call it a nightmare, but it is a very perplexing challenge," said a GOP official planning the event.

A senior McCain source said Saturday that officials are considering turning the convention into a service event, a massive telethon to raise money for the Red Cross and other agencies to help with the hurricane.

"He wants to do something service-oriented if and when the storm hits and it's as bad as its expected to be now," the McCain source said.

They are also hoping to get McCain himself to a storm-affected area as soon as possible.

McCain had suggested to a Fox News interviewer that the convention could be suspended if it seemed that a festive gathering was inappropriate in light of the destruction the storm may bring. VideoWatch as the Gulf Coast prepares for Gustav »

Republican Govs. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, Charlie Crist of Florida, Haley Barbour of Mississippi and Rick Perry of Texas -- whose states that lie in the path of Gustav, named a Category 4 hurricane Saturday afternoon -- will skip the GOP convention because of the storm.

The storm has forced last-minute changes in the convention's announced schedule: If the convention -- originally scheduled to start Monday -- commences by Tuesday, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney's speech will probably move to that night from Wednesday.

Other changes were being contemplated Saturday afternoon.

The hardest decisions, like whether to cancel a day or two of the four-day gathering or to or condense days, will be made at the last second, GOP officials said. But the logistics of those decisions are being discussed.

There are two scenarios under consideration for President Bush's speech, slated for Monday night. If the president is on hand to speak, his wife, Laura, will give a short speech. If he is not, the first lady will give a longer speech, and the president will speak via satellite from the White House or a location affected by the storm.

That decision will probably not be made until Sunday evening or Monday.

Officials won't discuss in detail how McCain's plans might change. They won't talk about McCain in any detail, but he is likely to go Monday or Tuesday to an aid station in an area hit by the hurricane, if it continues on as expected.

Earlier Saturday, President Bush declared a state of emergency in Mississippi, following similar declarations in Louisiana and Texas.

The president ordered federal aid to supplement state and local efforts in the areas in the forecast path of Hurricane Gustav.

Bush checked in with the four governors whose states are in Gustav's potential route.

The president pledged the full support of the federal government to those states, White House spokesman Scott Stanzel said.

Bush and his administration were heavily criticized in 2005 for not moving fast enough to send federal help to the Gulf Coast when Hurricane Katrina hit.