I see a lot of down sides to many of these people named. In stark realpolitik terms I don't think a woman on his ticket flies. A black and a woman is too much change for to many people. Sam Nunn is a good pick, but he's been out of the limelight for a long time, he is probably rusty on the campaign trail, and he takes the "age" issue off the table.
He'd be a great foreign policy advisor, or Sec of Defense, not a VP. I think Hegel is qualified, but the move is too cute by half. Hegel is a lifelong Repulican, and while maybe he delivers Nebraska, maybe he doesn't. People could see it as disloyalty, and he could be viewed by republicans and independents as a turncoat, thesame was dems and many independendants look at Joe Lieberman.

Ohio Gov could carry Ohio and maybe help in Pa and Mich which could turn the election, his weakness is no foreign policy chops. McCain, who is no foreign policy whiz, is overrated in this department, but he has the "security" vote locked up and can engage in fear/warmongering, as he has already begun to do. Takes me back to Jim Webb. Former Navy Secretary under Reagan, strong military creds, strong security creds, can get down and dirty with the common folk, and could deliver Virginia, North Carolina and help tip Pa and Ohio. He would be weak with women voters, and apparently has said or written some sexist things that they would throw back at him.

As for McCain, I don't believe for a minute that he is taking any one other than Romney seriously among the three names he has floated. The guy from Louisiana has less experience than
Obama, and Charlie Crist of Fla is also inexperienced, and McCain will robably carry Florida anyway, uness a hurricane hits and the shell game the Republicans are playing here with insurance is exposed.

" ... but ya doesn't have ta call me Johnson."

You can call me Ray . . .

One of the all-time great tv commercials.

...Or you can call me Jay.
You can call me Ray

Ha ha ha ha !! I wasn't even thinking in those terms. Very clever Kly. Ha ha ha!! LMAO

TIS

Romney would make sense for McCain and explain Romney jumping out of the race so quickly but I hate the douchebag.

On another note:

That's an interesting perspective on Ted Strickland, Ohio's governor. While I can't say that I am disappointed in Strickland, he has not really had any major accomplishments in my state. Then again, he had such a mess to clean up from his idiot predecessor Taft. I personally would nab Webb before Strickland, if I were Obama.

EDIT: Furthermore, Strickland has been very visible in his public support of Clinton. I doubt that he is on the very short list for Obama.

For the life of me I can't understand why any voter brings up the subject of foreign policy experience. What President has ever had it prior to becoming President? Ford? Carter? Reagan? Clinton? Bush? The elder Bush had some since he had been Vice-President. One can argue that Senators have limited experience since it is the Senate which is the President's partner regarding foreign affairs matters. But he vicissitudes of foreign affairs can radically change that environment between November and January and any time after.

Hillary Clinton's colossal blunder simply the last straw , by Michael Goodwin

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

SICK. Disgusting. And yet revealing. Hillary Clinton is staying in the race in the event some nut kills Barack Obama.

It could happen, but what definitely has happened is that Clinton has killed her own chances of being vice president. She doesn't deserve to be elected dog catcher anywhere now.

Her shocking comment to a South Dakota newspaper might qualify as the dumbest thing ever said in American politics.

Her lame explanation that she brought up the 1968 assassination of Robert Kennedy because his brother Ted's illness was on her mind doesn't cut it. Not even close.

We have seen an X-ray of a very dark soul. One consumed by raw ambition to where the possible assassination of an opponent is something to ponder in a strategic way. Otherwise, why is murder on her mind?

It's like Tanya Harding's kneecapping has come to politics. Only the senator from New York has more lethal fantasies than that nutty skater.

We could have seen it coming, if only we had realized Clinton's thinking could be so cold. She has grown increasingly wild in her imagery lately, invoking everything from slavery to the political killings in Zimbabwe in making her argument for the Florida and Michigan delegations. She claimed to be the victim of sexism, despite winning the votes of white men.

But none of it was moving the nomination needle, with Obama, despite recent dents, still on course to be the victor.

So she kept digging deeper, looking for the magic button. Instead, she pushed the eject button, lifting herself right out of consideration.

Giving voice to such a vile thought is all the more horrible because fears Obama would be killed have been an undercurrent to his astonishing rise. Republican Mike Huckabee made a stupid joke about it recently. Many black Americans have talked of it, reflecting their assumption that racists would never tolerate a black President and that Obama would be taken from them.

Clinton has now fed that fear. She needs a very long vacation. And we need one from her.

Say good night, Hillary. And go away

Hi PB,

I find it hard to believe that Hillary was indicating any kind of "wish" for something so horrible. However, they way she phrased it was like she was gonna "hang around because you never know if someone (hint hint) will be assassinated.
She seems way to smart for that kind of blunder. Especially since this election is a first and so historic.

Part of me is laughing my ass off though and I wanna use a phrase she used against Obama with her fake outrage: "Shame on you Senator Clinton, Shame on you!!!"

Really though, the thought is definitely NOT a laughing matter is it?

TIS

You can't be serious, TIS.

How are people of color supposed to react? Her remark is a slap in the face to anyone who has ever received a death threat due to the color of their skin.

Maybe she should just stay in until November. After all, that's when John Kennedy was shot.

The wheels are coming off. The Clinton's never see the inside of the White House again. If Obama were to choose this fucking pig as a running mate, I'll give serious consideration to voting for McCain.

PB,

I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt. I know most here can't stand her and I must admit, I've come to dislike her very much as this campaign progresses. You are saying you believe she is really waiting/wanting an assassination???


TIS

As far as hating her, I didn't prior to this disgusting campaign. It's like every time she opens her mouth, something more ridiculous comes out. I can't give her the benefit of the doubt any more.

By the way----If she leads among white men, how is sexism to blame for her impending loss?

The few loyalists she has left (read: the old, white, leftover, hippie, bra-burning feminists from the 60's) are even starting to see the light.

She has run a conservative/republican/incumbent campaign. She should be ashamed of herself. But we all know she has no shame.

I agree PB. I don't necessarily buy into some of these polls and I think, even though there is truth to it, the media is creating (somewhat) this racial divide.

,Everytime I see Obama there are huge crowds; 75,000 just last week in Oregon. From what I understand that was the largest crowd ever for this kind of event. My sister sent me an article from Grand Rapids Michigan were he was when Edwards endorsed him and the crowd was also huge. You see many white faces in the crowd, not just black.

This isn't to say that there are not people/areas that will not vote for him. Just yesterday I saw a couple very disturbing clips from West Virgina and Ky in which they were asking people if they'd vote for Obama. One woman said she would not because "he's Muslim" and another woman who didn't sound too intelligent says, "I won't vote for a Hussein, I've had enough of Husseins." My point being, there are all kinds of misinformed, unintelligent and baised people.

All I can say there is definitely something happening this election season and sense a change of some kind. God knows we need it.

TIS

Oh yea, and as far as the sexiskm claims go that's bullshit too. She talks about how tough she is and then whines like a baby because she "says" there's sexism......because she's losing.

That's all I'm saying, TIS. We need change, and he's the only candidate that brings anything remotely new to the table.

BTW----I saw that Kentucky/West Virginia clip. Is it any wonder why I love New York so much?

Look, the change that Obama touts is relatively undefined. Continually, one factor that all presidential candidates fail to apprise their constituencies of is the Congress. Only the Congress has lawmaking and appropriations power. Without a cooperative Congress, any change a president envisions is a non-starter. With a Republican Congress for six years, George Bush was unable to establish an effective energy policy or reduce spending. Go figure.

Exactly.

"What's all this talk about presidential erections? I just don't understand. That is not something that's anybody's business. If a pres ... What" What's that? Oh. It's presidential elections? Oh, okay. Never mind."

The sad truth is that was the first thing my husband said upon seeing Obama emerge as a serious contender for the nomination. After hearing him speak, the first words out of Mr. Babe's mouth were, "Dear God, he's so charismatic that I actually fear for him, that some nut will decide to assassinate him."

I don't think that Hillary meant it quite the same way, though.

I believe Hillary Clinton implicitly cited the possibility that Obama would be assassinated as a reason to continue her campaign. However, Obama was gracious to say that it has been a long campaign and he does not think she meant ill will.

But Fox News? They laugh about hoping to assassinate Obama. Watch Liz Trotta's (a regular contributor to Fox News) remarks about how it would be "good if [someone] killed both [Osama bin Laden and Barack Obama]." The enormous irony of it is that she made them while criticizing Hillary for her RFK assassination remark.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjYpkvcmog0


I have seen no mention of this story on MSNBC, no mention on yahoo, no mention on CNN. Silly me, but I think joking about the ASSASSINATION of a presidential candidate on national TV is wrong.

I saw that segment SB. It's really tasteless. That's what 3 assassination remarks in a week? First Huckabee and the Obama hiding from gunshot remark and then Hillary and now this broad!!!!

You would think especially, as historic as this election is, people would be a little more careful.

TIS

I think the reason for the assassination talk is Obama reminds people of Kennedy with his youth as well as his optimism

That's one reason. I think the real reason is that many rednecks would love to shoot at Obama from the back of their confederate flag-draped pickup truck. Then they could brag about trying to kill a black president (or presidential hopeful).

Yes there were 75,000 people present when Obama made a public appearence. However, they were really there for a concert. Just so happened Obama made the decision to speak before hand. Good idea on his part but all those people were not there to see him.

You don't think any of the 75,000 were there to see Obama hu?


I wasn't aware of a concert. I know that John Mellencamp held concerts for both Clinton & Obama in Indiana, which I'm sure also helped draw crowds. However, by all accounts, from what I have read and seen, there ARE record crowds and record registration mostly by young voters because of Obama.

Btw, who played at the concert? Just curious.

TIS

For anyone following these primaries, will it be over tomorrow (or maybe Wednesday?) I'm thinking so.




TIS

Yes, it will. Thank goodness. With Florida and Michigan resolved (barring an appeal), Clinton is done.

Bring me up to speed what happened with Fl/Michigan?

Both states decided to give the candidates half a vote of their total delegates. For example, if the process had happened properly and Obama won 20 delegates, he is now awarded 10 from one of the states. This process makes it nearly impossible for Hillary to get to the number needed to receive the nomination after Tuesday, unless a bunch of superdelegates change to her side.