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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: klydon1] #449698
11/12/07 02:50 PM
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That is just wrong.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: SC] #449709
11/12/07 03:24 PM
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 Originally Posted By: SC
 Originally Posted By: The Iceman
You have no idea how many accidents there are involving deer. that's due to over-population.


Couldn't an argument be made to better educate and train drivers in areas where the deer live?

I doubt it would help. Unlike dogs and cats, deer have no defensive sense about cars. They'll run right in front of a car, or freeze in front of a car ("deer in the headlights look"). Plenty of accidents have been caused by deer actually running into the side of a car. And there have been reports of people who actually stopped--and the deer ran into their cars anyway.

I shoot, but hunting isn't for me. But I agree with Iceman: controlling the deer population is a worthwhile cause.


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Turnbull] #449720
11/12/07 03:40 PM
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Is controlling the human population just as worthy?


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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Turnbull] #449721
11/12/07 03:41 PM
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And the most important thing to remember is that if you see one deer, assume that there are others nearby. The other day when I was driving home from work, a deer darted out into the highway. I slowed down and kept looking. Sure enough, not 10 seconds later, deer number two darted out into traffic. If I hadn't slowed down, there's no doubt that I would have hit it.

Each and every Monday morning when I drive to work at this time of year, there are new deer corpses on the side of the road.


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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #449723
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 Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
Is controlling the human population just as worthy?

I am planning to replicate LLC's China mission in India.

Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: svsg] #449725
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Did I mention I give the babies babies before I make my move?


"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: long_lost_corleone] #449726
11/12/07 03:53 PM
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 Originally Posted By: long_lost_corleone
Every winter, I head to China to help them out with their baby population.


Gee, this might be funny if I hadn't just lost my son.




Long as I remember The rain been coming down.
Clouds of Mystery pouring Confusion on the ground.
Good men through the ages, Trying to find the sun;
And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Longneck] #449727
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Ehh.... Sorry man.

Wasn't really a thought of mine. My mind doesn't really work in such a way to link the two at a wimb, mainly because I was making fun of Iceman's comment on keeping the deer population under control, which is the lamest fucking excuse I've ever heard, because if you were to not hunt the deer, the population would take care of itself, seeing as there wouldn't be enough food to go around, and the deer population would naturally wind down, where as if they die unnatural deaths, you aren't fixing the problem, just creating a shortcut.

But, I apologize if it struck you as being in bad taste.

Last edited by long_lost_corleone; 11/12/07 03:59 PM.

"Somebody told me when the bomb hits, everybody in a two mile radius will be instantly sublimated, but if you lay face down on the ground for some time, avoiding the residual ripples of heat, you might survive, permanently fucked up and twisted like you're always underwater refracted. But if you do go gas, there's nothing you can do if the air that was once you is mingled and mashed with the kicked up molecules of the enemy's former body. Big-kid-tested, motherf--ker approved."
Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Sicilian Babe] #449730
11/12/07 03:57 PM
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I never hit a deer on the highway, but some time ago I was driving alone from my brother's home well after midnight. Taking a short cut along a windy patch of a deserted two lane country road, I heard a loud thud under me. Thinking I blew a tire in the middle of nowhere, I pulled over.

My tires were fine. On the side of the road just behind my car was a plump, full-sized pig that I had hit with the car. He was alive, but hurt. There were no cars or homes in sight. I remember passing a dark farmhouse about a mile back, but that was it for houses.

After ten minutes with no other cars coming by, I moved the pig off the side of the road by a fence, and went on my way.

My mistake. Two days later I get a citation from the State Police for leaving the injured pig on the side of the road.

Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: klydon1] #449731
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Klyd, how did the police know it was your car that hit the pig?


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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Sicilian Babe] #449734
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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Klyd, how did the police know it was your car that hit the pig?


The pig squealed. ;\) \:D

Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: klydon1] #449736
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 Originally Posted By: klydon1
 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Klyd, how did the police know it was your car that hit the pig?


The pig squealed. ;\) \:D


Why do I get the feeling that I was set up for that???


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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Sicilian Babe] #449737
11/12/07 04:12 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
 Originally Posted By: klydon1
 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Klyd, how did the police know it was your car that hit the pig?


The pig squealed. ;\) \:D


Why do I get the feeling that I was set up for that???


That was a story that I had forgotten, but something in this thread reminded me of it. Sometimes people don't think to ask how the police knew. \:\)

Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: klydon1] #449753
11/12/07 04:41 PM
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 Originally Posted By: klydon1
 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Klyd, how did the police know it was your car that hit the pig?


The pig squealed. ;\) \:D


If you didn't say it SC probably would have.

When I lived in West Virginia I had to slam on the breaks all the time cuz of the deer. We lived by a state park and you aren't allowed to hunt in a state park so there is a bunch of deers. We would have deers in our yard all the time.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: svsg] #449830
11/12/07 11:45 PM
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Well, those goddam deer may eat some grass and berries and procreate and maintain their natural "turf", the very land that was theirs, long before human "whiteys" started shooting at them with projectile weapons and calling it a fucking "sport"...

... Then these same animal-slaughtering pig-fuckers hang the deer carcasses from Christmas trees and fill their freezers with dozens of pounds more "venison" (deer flesh) than any single family could possibly consume, even if they did not drive their gas-guzzling SUVs to the "Piggly Wiggly" every day...
Just like the lying pig hypocrites they all are.

I hope that all of those "innocent deer" continue to inflict themselves, Kamikaze-style on all the rich pig hunters' automobiles and kill plenty of the deer-murderers with their suicide-sacrificed bodies...

Let's all hope that fat-ass Papa Hunter with his big deer rifle (to compensate for his micro-penis) is the first to eat shit... Before he can train his incest-begotten "young'uns" how to follow in his wildlife-murdering ways.

"Oh, but then the deer population will grow too much..."

Buncha horse-shit... Or should I say "deer-shit"...

All of you wild-life killers can eat my big fat dick and BURN IN HELL...

Before you get reincarnated as a DEER to get shot and hung from some IGNORANT red-neck's blood-stained Christmas tree.

FUCK anybody who tries to justify their wanton murder of natural wildlife, or eats the flesh of cows, pigs and chickens grown and tortured in corporate industrial agricultural "factory farms"...


You can ALL go to hell for MURDER.

... Just MY "opinion"...


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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Don Rico] #449844
11/13/07 01:11 AM
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Well my hubby has been hunting in KY since Saturday and no deer yet.


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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #449846
11/13/07 01:19 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Capo de La Cosa Nostra
Is controlling the human population just as worthy?


With guns? Or through the promotion of homosexuality?

I support both.


"There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." -Calvin and Hobbes
Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Don Rico] #449888
11/13/07 09:22 AM
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Rico,

No offense, but....

I can understand that you're upset (to put it mildly) and obviously you do not support hunting. You have every right to your opinion, and I am sure you are not alone. I never understood the fun in it either, yet there is no need for name-calling, put-downs, verbal abuse and racial slurs to people who do.

Like I said, I am not a hunter, I have never hunted, BUT it is a sport (whether you, I or anyone else thinks it's fair or not) and it IS legal. The hunters, as long as they follow the law, are doing nothing wrong, let alone illegal.

Just my opinion!

TIS

Last edited by The Italian Stallionette; 11/13/07 09:33 AM.

"Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind. War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today." JFK

"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #449930
11/13/07 01:23 PM
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Way to go TIS

Rico, Like TIS says you are entitled to your opinion but I disagree with you. People like to fish, people like to hunt why are you getting all bent out of shape for?


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Mignon] #449931
11/13/07 01:25 PM
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I could really go for a burger.


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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: pizzaboy] #449933
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I can make you a deer burger for ya now if you like. Delish ;\)


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Mignon] #449935
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I'd love one, Mig. I love deer "cutlets," breaded and fried just like veal cutlets.


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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: pizzaboy] #449937
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I'll send it right over.


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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Mignon] #449946
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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Capo de La Cosa Nostra] #450099
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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: long_lost_corleone] #450573
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 Originally Posted By: long_lost_corleone
because if you were to not hunt the deer, the population would take care of itself, seeing as there wouldn't be enough food to go around, and the deer population would naturally wind down, where as if they die unnatural deaths, you aren't fixing the problem, just creating a shortcut.


"fixing the problem"?? I assume you are referring to over population of deer. Since human's have eliminated most of the natural predator of deer, it has become man's "responsibility" to control the population. This is a sad fact, but nonetheless reality. To keep a healthy deer population, there must be managed hunting. If deer populations were to go unchecked they would suffer from disease and starvation. Man has become the "natural" predator. Through population management the strong survive and the herds remain healthy.

BTW, last night I had a close encounter on the road with a very large buck with many pointed horns on his head. Major damage would have occured. This time of year they are out looking for the ladies. When they get the scent they don't care if you're driving a semi or a hybrid, they are going to cross that road.


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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: MaryCas] #450635
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Again, if we were to let the problem work itself out, it would. Too many deer means not enough food. Not enough food equates to starvation, and starvation is death.

Man has been hunting deer for a long, long time. But the deer population has yet to be "corrected" or "fixed". There is still an over population. Deer reproduce whether or not hunting season is in, so the logic is almost entirely flawed. Because we do hunt deer, the struggle for food isn't a very intense one. If we simply let deer fight for their food, it's going to do a hell of a lot more to permanently reduce the population than the gut-driven conclusion that we should just go around hiding in trees and bushes, wiping out whatever comes out way with firearms. Like any alteration made to any species, it's going to take a while. We're going to get there eventually, but going around taking out deer isn't going to help anymore than simply letting the species enter a sort of Darwinistic challenge, so why go about it that way anyway?

I'm not going to tell someone not to go hunting. If you want to hunt, fine, hunt. I just think it's a tad idiotic to attempt to excuse it as simply keeping the population in order. Most people want to go out, kill a deer, mount its head up on a wall, and maybe eat its meat... I can't help but think that someone running through the woods with a semi-automatic weapon trekking for deer doesn't really care if there is a surplus of deer. It just doesn't make sense.

And for the record, man is so advanced on so many fields, we shouldn't have to be the "predator" of anything. We stopped being predators the moment we traded out linen clothes and spears in for designer jeans and TV dinners.

Last edited by long_lost_corleone; 11/15/07 04:07 PM.

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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: long_lost_corleone] #450648
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I agree, people don't hunt because they feel an obligation to help the deer population. They hunt because they like the chase and killing.

The deer population thing is a justification given by hunters to people against hunting. It is BS. While it may help the deer population, that is not why people choose to hunt.

I have never hunted, but I know I would probably enjoy it.




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And I wonder, Still I wonder, Who'll stop the rain.

Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Longneck] #450661
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Why do you think the good Lord put chickens, cows, deers, pigs etc on the earth for? For the benifet of man.


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Re: Anti-Hunters. [Re: Longneck] #450663
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I believe it is now bow season in Pennsylvania, when deer hunting only by means of archery is permitted. This is kind of popular where I live, and a former neighbor, who is quite skilled at this type of hunting, invited me once to go along. He explained that we were to leave Saturday morning at 4:00 AM, park near the woods around 5:15 AM, hike through the woods with flashlights for another 40 minutes until we get to his spot, which was a couple of sturdy pine trees. We would then climb the trees where his stands were, and wait until the deer come, sometimes until dusk. If you get a clear shot with the bow, you better get ready to move because those deer can haul for a while with an arrow in them.

I declined, slept til 8:30, drank beer and watched football. He came back with a deer that evening. He had a great time, but I would have been bored. Anyhow the deer rendered some tasty steaks, ground meat and bologna.

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