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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Sicilian Babe] #400126
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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
I also loved the scene between Tony and Sil. No need for words, was there???


Well, if Sil's in a coma.............haha.


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Fuckin' awesome ending!!!!!

I thought my cable went out at the end.... but the suspense was real!!


Am I to take it that the show just stopped, and you don't really know HOW it ended?


yes

Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Beth E] #400128
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Line of the night goes to Agent Harris when the other agent tells him Phil got capped. ahah Oh man, that was hilarious.

Also, I love how many people David Chase just pissed off with that ending. It was perfect.


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Well i don't think he originally wanted tony to die anyways. I had read somewhere a few years ago, after Nancy Marchant died, that chase was originally planning on ending the series with Livia's death. But due to Nancy's untimely death the whole series changed its course. Man sometimes i think about how different the series could have turned out if Livia was still around.


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Don Vercetti] #400130
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 Originally Posted By: Don Vercetti


I think Chase is great. He films three different endings, the other two probably being a happy and sad one, and with all the "what'll happen to Tony?" hype, he simply left it to your imagination. Tony may have gotten killed, may have been happy, and maybe the feds built their case to finally bring him down.

So what if you didn't see it? It's your call, and let's be honest, not one of us watched those last few minutes and didn't have a racing heartbeat. Chase played with our emotions like a violin, and then took the wind out of us, without giving in to expectation.


Exactly right Vercetti.



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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Ryno_Smith] #400132
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 Originally Posted By: Ryno_Smith

I hope your joking, after all the lead up, this whole epsiode sucked.


Not joking at all.... its Chase's style NOT to tie things up and he didn't sell out at the end. I'm happy for that!!

Those last few minutes were as suspenseful as anything I've seen on tv. I think a lot of people will think that. Kudos to Chase for giving our collective imaginations some exercise.

BTW - Who is to say that all those "suspicious" looking guys in the ice cream parlor aren't really Tony's bodyguards? Who is to say that they simply don't like ice cream and happened to be there at the same time as Tony? Who is to say that they weren't there to whack Tony?? We'll never know now, except for the deep recesses of our own imagination.


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Beth E] #400133
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Beth, You see Carm, Tony and AJ all arriving and sitting down at the restaurant. Different people are sitting around, you don't know if Tony should be worried about them or not. Tony tells Carm that Carlo is supposed to testify against him. AJ wants onion rings, and Meadow is outside trying to parallel park, which takes her about 5 tries. She finally parks and walks across the street to the restaurant, the bell over the door of the restaurant jingles, and the screen goes blank.


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Ryno_Smith] #400134
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 Originally Posted By: Ryno_Smith


I hope your joking, after all the lead up, this whole epsiode sucked. The war ended up being a joke. Phil's guys are going to turn on him like that?

I still say Tony dreamed all this as he entered the joint in the clothes he visited Junior in.

It would have been better if he just woke up and Kevin Finnery.


I know you're joking!~



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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Sicilian Babe] #400135
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Tension at the end? More tension when Paulie walked into the Bing at it was empty.

Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Sicilian Babe] #400136
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I think I'm I'd be on the bandwagon with the others who are pissed.


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I don't know what to think, really. I'm not sure to be pissed off or what anymore.


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: SC] #400138
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I've had some time to think about it, and I'm starting to accept the ending. I guess I was hoping for some kind of definitive closure, but instead will have to use my imagination.

Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Beth E] #400139
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 Originally Posted By: Beth E
I think I'm I'd be on the bandwagon with the others who are pissed.


Thats OK.... those who are pissed didn't see the show either.


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Who didn't think we were going to get a GF III ending with Meadow taking a bullet meant for Tony, when she walked in?

Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Don Cardi] #400141
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 Originally Posted By: Don Cardi
 Originally Posted By: Ryno_Smith


I hope your joking, after all the lead up, this whole epsiode sucked. The war ended up being a joke. Phil's guys are going to turn on him like that?

I still say Tony dreamed all this as he entered the joint in the clothes he visited Junior in.

It would have been better if he just woke up and Kevin Finnery.


I know you're joking!~


No, I am not.. You keep saying Tension at the end. How could someone get shot when Tony walks in and is watching himself there?

This episode sucked, It will be ripped in the media tomorrow as it was probably the highest watched show tonight.

I wouldn't touch the movie after this performance, just sad two of you can't see what others are saying, especially after the huge build up.

Thanks Chase for all the years, but of that is the best you can end with, good riddance.

Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Don Vercetti] #400142
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 Originally Posted By: Don Vercetti


I like how the last thing heard is Journey, "Don't stop!"


"Who will you run to"

"Don't Stop Believeing"

"I gotta be me"


All the songs that Tony focused on when looking at the juke box. ;\)



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 Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Who didn't think we were going to get a GF III ending with Meadow taking a bullet meant for Tony, when she walked in?


That was exactly the ending I was anticipating.


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What was the meaning of the title, "Made in America"?


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Just Lou] #400145
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Personally I like to think Tony eventually falls and somehow it carries onto his family.

I think one of the best things about the Sopranos is how much relaity is played into family alone. Think of all the things Tony and AJ have been saying lately. Tonight AJ said "You always with the drama!" just like Livia. I think one of the series biggest points is how family is passed down, whether they're good or bad things, and with AJ loving the fire of his car, I think he's going down the path of a sociopath.

I think Chase overall tried to use this series simply to convey ideas. He conveyed his own feelings (He was in clinical depression, sleeping 18 hours a day and playing drums, similar to AJ), and his views on the world. Think of Luxury Lounge where all the expensive stuff was free, and how it tempted Chris into movies.

I think Chase put a lot of himself into it, especially AJ's rant about us being distracted by fantasies. I don't think it was meant to be like some of his favorite films like The Public Enemy where there's a rise and fall. I think he simply used a series to show a slice of life and ideas, with no definite end.


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Sicilian Babe] #400146
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 Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Beth, You see Carm, Tony and AJ all arriving and sitting down at the restaurant. Different people are sitting around, you don't know if Tony should be worried about them or not.



Notice how, almost immedeatly before each member of the family walks in, someone walks in ahead of them. Bodyguards for each family member?



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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: SC] #400147
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My friend just put in in good terms.
Tonight's show was like wating all month to get laid. But instead of getting your rocks off you get thrown on the bed and buttfucked by a biker gang.


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Re: Made In America- Final Episode POSSIBLE SPOILERS [Re: Ryno_Smith] #400148
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 Originally Posted By: Ryno_Smith
just sad two of you can't see what others are saying, especially after the huge build up.


Hmmm... I was thinking the same thing about you.

Read through these "Sopranos" threads and you'll always find differeing opinions on the shows.... thats to be expected. We, obviously, have different viewpoints on this show and thats alright...


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Ending was Awesome no better way to wrap it up then a family dinner with the Sopranos b/c after all it is a family show.

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 Originally Posted By: Beth E
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Who didn't think we were going to get a GF III ending with Meadow taking a bullet meant for Tony, when she walked in?


That was exactly the ending I was anticipating.


And that's a possibility. Meadow was going to sit next to Tony. Also think of the way it ended with "Don't stop!"

With all the tension it made a upbeat song sound almost like a warning.

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The scene with Uncle Junior and Tony made the episodes one of the best i have ver seen. It looked like tony was going to cry when he was there with Junior


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 Originally Posted By: Don Vercetti
 Originally Posted By: Beth E
 Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Who didn't think we were going to get a GF III ending with Meadow taking a bullet meant for Tony, when she walked in?


That was exactly the ending I was anticipating.


And that's a possibility. Meadow was going to sit next to Tony. Also think og the way it ended with "Don't stop!"

With all the tension it made a upbeat song sound almost like a warning.


And as I pointed out in another post,

"Who will you run to"

"Don't Stop Believeing"

"I gotta be me"


All the songs that Tony focused on when looking at the juke box.

All have meaning for what took place and was happening if you really think about it. Almost everything that has been going through Tony's mind throughout the entire seven years.



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I think I saw his eyes watering.


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That scene got to me Uncle junior is so helpless in that prison and tony saw him as an helpless old man who is rotting.


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this better show up on limewire or youtube sometime this week.

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 Originally Posted By: Don Vercetti

I think Chase put a lot of himself into it, especially AJ's rant about us being distracted by fantasies.


AJ "sold out"..... all of a sudden his life had some direction (the movie thing) and he snapped out of his depression and didn't give a shit about the environment anymore.


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