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GF1 vs GF2; Utopia VS Dystopia
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05/23/07 07:49 PM
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Now it would be my take that on one level the arhcetype of the mafia world is a personification of justice. Justice is swift and absolute, as in Vito's empire. Although Vito is no saint in his actions, he is almost an ideal leader. He is fair, he is brave, he is just, he is charismatic, he abides by laws and morals (although not society's). Infact every single portrayal of him is one of high esteem, in the book, his portrayal is one of someone who simply does not want to play by society's rules and wishes to live by a different brand of justice. In this sense he is no more than a rebel.
Michael on the other hand is a tight fisted ruler, by GF2 he is certainly more of a dictator than a fair person and rules more in a totalitarian style. The death of Pentangeli and Fredo by his hands is really evidence of an "unjust" punishment, in the sense that they did F* up, but they were wrong and did repent. In this sense he can be contrasted and GF1 is an examination of more a utopian set up, maybe not exactly vs a dystopia.
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Re: GF1 vs GF2; Utopia VS Dystopia
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05/23/07 08:18 PM
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I wouldnt go as far as to say Vito was a Rebel. I would say that the justice system is flawed and imperfect so... if you could create your own justice... then do so...
Like Michael said to Geary "we are all part of the same hypocrisy" - hypocrisy is running amuck...ubiquitously
"What I want.... whats most important to me... is that I have a guarantee" - Train approaches.... Bang! Bang! Bang!
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Re: GF1 vs GF2; Utopia VS Dystopia
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05/24/07 07:55 AM
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If we look at the filthy face of society, Vito did justice. He protected the vulnerable. And when citizens like the undertaker who couldn't be shielded by society and its law turned to Vito, he would always give out a helping hand.
One has only one destiny, he cannot choose it.
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Re: GF1 vs GF2; Utopia VS Dystopia
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05/24/07 06:06 PM
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We view Vito sympathetically because Puzo wrote him, and Brando played him, as a sympathetic character. But it doesn't change the fact that he was a ruthless gangster. His major businesses--gambling and unions--were anything but "victimless crimes." The big money in gambling comes not from the odds favoring the house, but from loansharking, a business of broken kneecaps and worse. And every dollar that Vito took out of his labor rackets was a dollar stolen from the pockets of working stiffs, or charged back to consumers. He opposed drugs not because he wanted to protect his community, but because he feared that drugs would jeopardize the police and political protection that covered his other rackets. How many people did he kill over the years who got in his way?
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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