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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #393119
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Tony didnt kill Chrisopher. He lent a hand.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: ScarFather] #393123
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So did Tony kill Chris? I didn't get that.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: SC] #393165
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 Originally Posted By: SC
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However, I didn't think that Tony said, "I get it" at the end, I thought he said, "I did it," and that it was his way of confessing to Chris's murder.


Tony said "I get it".

I'm trying to figure out if it has any reference to the Ojibwe saying that was on the bulletin board in Tony's hospital room (after Junior shot him). Its some sort of spiritual revelation - the meaning of life (or something like that). I've never done peyote but its some sort of psychedelic that many used to take to "find themselves".




Does anyone remember what that sign in his room said? I can't find it anywhere.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: Don Foozbond] #393167
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 Originally Posted By: Don Foozbond

Does anyone remember what that sign in his room said? I can't find it anywhere.


Not 100% certain but I think it was, "Sometimes I go about in pity for myself and all the while a great wind carries me across the sky".


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: ScarFather] #393168
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 Originally Posted By: ScarFather
Tony didnt kill Chrisopher. He lent a hand.


What show were you watching????


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: SC] #393178
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Saw the episode last night - top notch.

After the previous episode, folks here were looking for a Tony redemption. I expressed a direction of implosion. After watching this episode.....implosion.

Now I'll go out on a limb. The only redeeming character of the whole family will be AJ. I think he is almost over Blanca. He shows an interest in college and he is showing a distaste for the junior mob. He is with them in body, but he looks like an unwilling participant. In the psych's office, he rhetorically asks, "Why can't everyone get along."

In the end....Carmela walks out on Tony, Meadow runs off with her mystery man and AJ joins the Peace Corp. Tony is left in house watching Godfather II, the camera shows the TV set with the scene of Michael sitting in the chair on the lawn with the leaves blowing around him - he's alone; his family has desserted him or he's killed them. Michael and Tony; two of a kind.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: SC] #393213
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 Originally Posted By: SC
 Originally Posted By: Don Foozbond

Does anyone remember what that sign in his room said? I can't find it anywhere.


Not 100% certain but I think it was, "Sometimes I go about in pity for myself and all the while a great wind carries me across the sky".

Thats the quote- word for word. Actually, it can be applied to most people, IMO.

Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: MaryCas] #393238
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 Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Saw the episode last night - top notch.

After the previous episode, folks here were looking for a Tony redemption. I expressed a direction of implosion. After watching this episode.....implosion.

Now I'll go out on a limb. The only redeeming character of the whole family will be AJ. I think he is almost over Blanca. He shows an interest in college and he is showing a distaste for the junior mob. He is with them in body, but he looks like an unwilling participant. In the psych's office, he rhetorically asks, "Why can't everyone get along."

In the end....Carmela walks out on Tony, Meadow runs off with her mystery man and AJ joins the Peace Corp. Tony is left in house watching Godfather II, the camera shows the TV set with the scene of Michael sitting in the chair on the lawn with the leaves blowing around him - he's alone; his family has desserted him or he's killed them. Michael and Tony; two of a kind.


I have to applaud your finale scenario. It's not as good as mine, but it's still pretty good.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: olivant] #393251
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Tony reminds me of the classic organized serial killer who becomes disorganized as his frenzy for murder grows and becomes out of control. That is what happened to Ted Bundy, who was very smooth and could easily speak his way into a woman's trust, to such an extent that dozens of women willingly went with him. He would dump their bodies in the woods, and, if he had left evidence, nature had taken it away by the time their bodies were found. Then, after his escape from the Colorado jail, he went insane down in Florida and attacked the young girls in the sorority house, leaving tons of evidence behind him.

Tony reminds me of Ted Bundy in that way. He is spiraling downward, losing control of everything, especially of himself.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: Sicilian Babe] #393273
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Ditto Babe.

You know, I have always liked Tony just as I liked the Godfather. But I never saw the Godfather actually do anything bad until GFII and then what he did was to people who (to use a term) deserved it. I don't like Tony anymore. In fact, I am struggling between wanting to see how it all comes out and not watching the remaining episodes. Funny, isn't it?


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: olivant] #393279
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I feel the same way. I think the final episodes, however the outcome, will be of Tony finally losing what's left of his sanity.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: pizzaboy] #393289
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Tony has been losgin it ever since Tony B. came back he hasnt been as effective as he was in the previous seasons b/c of Tony B. I think he has alot to do with tonys S. downfall and not being able to trust the people around him b/c his kin stabed him in the back.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: hova4ever9] #393290
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Did anyone notice when tony threw the cleaver mug in the bushes how the camera paused as though the ducks were going to come back?


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: hova4ever9] #393332
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Yes, I noticed that too.

I was watching a rerun which I had forgot about where Carmela goes to a psychiatrist who really lays it on the line to her about her life and husband. She acknowledges Tony's criminal and immoral behavior. I wonder if that will be reprised.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: olivant] #393397
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 Originally Posted By: olivant

Kennedy and Heidi.

Kennedy as in JFK or Dr, Kennedy?

Heidi as in the Heidi Game or the movie itself?


The 2 girls in the car that Chris swerves to miss.




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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: olivant] #393399
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 Originally Posted By: olivant
Yes, I noticed that too.

I was watching a rerun which I had forgot about where Carmela goes to a psychiatrist who really lays it on the line to her about her life and husband. She acknowledges Tony's criminal and immoral behavior. I wonder if that will be reprised.



IMHO Carm is living in a dream world because she knows what Tony is and that he will never change. Carmela puts up with it for the perks.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: Paul Pisano] #393432
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Carmela, in her own way, is just as hypocritical and as bad as Tony. They were made for each other. She talks about being a good catholic, gets involved in church functions, and then reaps the rewards fully knowing that they are a result of the criminal acts that her husband is involved in. And like Tony she can be a vicious son of a bitch when she has to be.



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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: BDuff] #393451
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I've been interested in other people's opinions beside the BB, just to get an idea if we are all thinking alike I guess. Anyway, check out this article. Evidently there are those who, like Olivant,still think Ade is alive. He's not alone (read some of the comments if you have the time)

SOPRANOS' FANS GET NO REVENGE FOR ADRIANA'S DEATH -- YET


"I like to think I'm tough to shock, especially when it comes to fictional characters, and especially with a show like "The Sopranos." But not only was I surprised that Tony killed his almost-son Christopher, I was shocked at how matter-of-fact the murder was..... (click link for whole story)


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If I lived anywhere near any of these filming locations, I'd get a real kick out of it. For you locals (not locos ) Do you guys know what this person (from the comments section) is talking about? Is there no such place?

"Did anyone from North Jersey notice the sign for the garbage disposal plant that was removing asbestos? It read East Haledon , NJ. Now I grew up in North Haledon, NJ and went to Manchester High in Haledon , NJ , but East Haledon ?? Keep it real will ya!!"


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #393474
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Thanks for that link, TIS. Interesting.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: Sicilian Babe] #393480
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minchia, can we stop with the ade already?


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: Rocco_Spaccamuro] #393484
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 Originally Posted By: Rocco_Spaccamuro
minchia, can we stop with the ade already?


Ha ha! I know. If you read the readers' comments in the link I posted, it does sound much like the BB discussions regarding Ade.

TIS


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #393510
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When Tony kept looking at Christopher right before the wreck, what was he looking at? Christopher didn't look drunk or stoned.

Also, Tony tells Melfi that Christopher's mother Joanne was his cousin. I thought she was Carmela's cousin.


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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: olivant] #393512
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 Originally Posted By: olivant
When Tony kept looking at Christopher right before the wreck, what was he looking at? Christopher didn't look drunk or stoned.

Also, Tony tells Melfi that Christopher's mother Joanne was his cousin. I thought she was Carmela's cousin.


Are you kidding? Chris kept fidgiting and moving oddly, like drooping his head and getting easily distracted. I knew he was on Heroin as soon as he was just staring and drooping.

Dickie Moltisante is Carmella's first cousin while Chris' mother is Tony's cousin as well.

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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: Don Vercetti] #393516
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He kept retuning the radio. Plus he was conversing with Tony the whole time. He even looked over at Tony several times. What was he fidgeting with except the radio? What were the odd movements? He had enough acuity to retrieve a cd and put it in the player. Staring? Isn't that called watching where you're driving? I still don't get it.

So, were they cousins on Tony's mother's or father's side. I don't remember her and Tony together too much or the cousin reference.

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Re: Season 6B, Episode 6 CONTAINS SPOILERS [Re: olivant] #393517
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 Originally Posted By: olivant
He kept retuning the radio. Plus he was conversing with Tony the whole time. He even looked over at Tony several times. What was he fidgeting with except the radio? What were the odd movements? He had enough acuity to retrieve a cd and put it in the player. Staring? Isn't that called watching where you're driving? I still don't get it.

So, were they cousins on Tony's mother's or father's side. I don't remember her and Tony together too much or the cousin reference.


At the meeting.

He looks around and fidgets a lot. He is acting paranoid and high.




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What constitutes a fidget?


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 Originally Posted By: BadaBing
What constitutes a fidget?


A fight between two midgets.


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 Originally Posted By: SC
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What constitutes a fidget?


A fight between two midgets.

Classic!


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 Originally Posted By: SC
 Originally Posted By: ScarFather
Tony didnt kill Chrisopher. He lent a hand.


What show were you watching????


When Tony goes around to Christopher... Chris is talking nonsense and spitting up blood... he is taking Chris out of his misery. ;\)


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 Originally Posted By: MaryCas
Saw the episode last night - top notch.

After the previous episode, folks here were looking for a Tony redemption. I expressed a direction of implosion. After watching this episode.....implosion.

Now I'll go out on a limb. The only redeeming character of the whole family will be AJ. I think he is almost over Blanca. He shows an interest in college and he is showing a distaste for the junior mob. He is with them in body, but he looks like an unwilling participant. In the psych's office, he rhetorically asks, "Why can't everyone get along."

In the end....Carmela walks out on Tony, Meadow runs off with her mystery man and AJ joins the Peace Corp. Tony is left in house watching Godfather II, the camera shows the TV set with the scene of Michael sitting in the chair on the lawn with the leaves blowing around him - he's alone; his family has desserted him or he's killed them. Michael and Tony; two of a kind.


When AJ says "why cant we all just get along" I believe that is one of his last cries before he actually completes his move to the dark side. AJ is in. Its just a matter of time.


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