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Re: ONLY IMAGINE [Re: dontomasso] #360024
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I don't understand what you mean. Cicci kills Tessio??? It doesn't mean he didn't speack for the comission.

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Re: ONLY IMAGINE [Re: Dakosta] #360091
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In the film, Michael finds out that Tessio is a traitor. He tells Tom to arrange for Tessio to be killed. Tom instructs Cicci to kill Tessio.

For Cicci to say that Tom had orders from Michael for Cicci to kill Tessio would be hearsay evidence in a court. Cicci would have had to hear it directly from Michael for it to be accepted as evidence in court.


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Re: ONLY IMAGINE [Re: Dakosta] #360093
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Originally Posted By: Dakosta
...Could Michael have ordered to kill Clemenza??


No.

Originally Posted By: Dakosta
...Do you think Hyman Roth is behind this??...


Yes.

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Re: ONLY IMAGINE [Re: Dakosta] #360119
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Originally Posted By: Dakosta
He told he kill other people and that the boss of this was Michael Corleone. I think it's suficient to kill him if I were Michael



Dakosta -

A member here name Turnbull gave his opinion in a topic that was started a few years back. In my opinion Turnbull's insight on this matter makes total sense. I hope that he doesn't mind, but I did a search and found his wonderful post explaining why he believes that Michael gave Cicci a pass, so I am going to re-post what Turnbull wrote in the hopes that you will have a better understanding as to why Michael did not have Cicci killed :

Originally Posted By: Turnbull
I think Michael may have given Cicci a pass because Cicci deliberately lied under oath to help and protect Michael at the Senate hearing. After Cicci admitted that he was a killer, Geary asked if he'd ever gotten a direct order from Michael, and Cicci replied, "No, I never talked to him." But we know otherwise: during the Great Massacre of 1955, when Tessio was about to be taken for a ride, Cicci comes out and says, "Sal, Tom: the boss says for you to go on ahead... [emphasis added]. So, as we see, he really did get orders from Michael. If Cicci had told that story to the Senate committee, he'd have provided a direct link to Michael and murder.






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Re: ONLY IMAGINE [Re: Don Cardi] #360208
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Yeah, it's a good topic, and now it make sense. Thank you for your finding job.

Re: ONLY IMAGINE [Re: Dakosta] #363990
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I always thought Clemenza was poisoned by the Rosatos.



Re: ONLY IMAGINE [Re: AppleOnYa] #503702
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Originally Posted By: Dakosta
...Could Michael have ordered to kill Clemenza??

No.


In the first version of the script of GF2 there was no Pentangeli. One of the main plotlines was the conflict between Clemenza and Pentangeli. FFC and Puzo even left some lines in the script which referred to Clemenza.
Tom to Pentangeli: "You were always interested in politics and history. I remember you calling about Hitler back in '33."
("They should have stopped Hitler in Munich.")

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