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Tweaking the Godfather #26337
04/25/03 07:31 PM
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If God or FFC gave you the permission to make any changes to any of the films what would they be? Use a better type of blood to pop out of Moe Green's eye? Hire Angelina Jolie for the role of Mary? Have Michael live at the end of GF3? What would have happened if Sonny would have lived? Let's hear your great ideas!!!


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Have Michael live. Give the part of Mary to Martina McBride. And erase B.J. Harrison from existence.


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I'd like to organize a visit to the Wizard of Oz, with FFC included among Dorothy and the others. After the lion and the scarecrow got their wishes, FFC would ask for: a real plot for GFIII. Can you picture him singing, "If it only had a plot...."


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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04/26/03 03:05 PM
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Turnbull! GF3 had a substantial plot! In fact, for me personally, the plot was the strongest of the three. The Vatican bank scandal was huge news as well as the Mafia's influence in purchasing immobiliare and knocking of Pope John Paul I. This was real stuff that he was treating! The subplot of Michael redeeming himself was profound as it cost him the only thing sanctimonious to him, his daughter, this is why we see him die alone. I thought it was brilliant. eek


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04/30/03 10:56 PM
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Have De Niro play the part of Godfather (hey, Brando did a GREAT job, but I'm a huge De Niro fan. I would have loved to have seen him as Don Corleone in the 1st movie, not the 2nd).

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GFIII had a very great plotline I think. Involving the deaths of the Pope and "Gods Banker", that really happened in real life. However, I think that FFC cut out so much of the movie to shorten it, the storyline just didnt come together in the end. I still cant fully understand the GFIII storyline no matter how much I study it. Thats how I feel...


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Re: Tweaking the Godfather #26344
05/01/03 05:43 PM
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Simple request: keep Clemenza in GF2, keep Hagen in GF3. Can't we all just get along?


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My ideas:

-cut out that ridiculous ragtime music when Hagen visits Hollywood!! (this is on a par with the annoying March of Time music in Citizen Kane...)

-Cut the wife-beating scene in the first film to half its length

-Improve and shorten the beginning of the modern section of Godfather II. And replace Rocco and Al Neri with competent actors!

-Make Hyman Roth live in a house that doesn't look like dull and depressing '50s suburbia

-Make Michael wear a dark suit all the time in GFII!!!

-Give FFC 6 more months to make GF3, so it wouldn't have turned out like a rough draft because of commercial pressures!

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Cicci, I believe Meyer Lansky, the Jewish mobster who Hyman Roth was based on, lived in a middle class home. That is why Roth didnt live in a huge compound like Michael, the real life person he was based on lived in a just a reasonble home.


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Re: Tweaking the Godfather #26347
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Yes, Lansky lived in a very modest home (a bungalow) in Hallandale, FL, just over the border from Miami in Broward County. Lansky paid off just about every resident of Hallandale in order to operate his gambling joints. He lived far better in Havana, where the US government wasn't watching him so closely and the Cuban government was on his side.


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Yeah, I guessed it might be realistic; BUT it still sucks - especially the dusty screen door!

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let me say first off that there is nothing wrong with the music or wife beating scene in the godfather, especially the beating scene. it's essential and shows how low the corleone front has gotten. but if i could change anything it would be have robert duvall in gf3. oh by the way de niro is good in part 2 but no one can beat marlon brando in part 1. sorry but true. i would change sophia coppola and maybe have mira sorvino as mary. as long as she kept her hair black. i would like to have had part one stretched out a little longer.


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Re: Tweaking the Godfather #26350
06/13/03 05:34 PM
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Mine would be to cut out the cousin crap in GF III, and NO B.J. Harisson.

Re: Tweaking the Godfather #26351
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As someone stated above: Keep Clemenza in II and Tom in III.

Pt. I - Insert into the storyline - Bocciccio Clan, Depth of story regarding Lucy/Sonny and Back story of Filomena and Luca. (Sure, it'll make the movie about an hour longer, but what the hell--I wouldnt mind) grin

Pt. 2 - Have Clemenza with the family, only not in the role of Pentangeli -- Have Michael kill Fredo himself, not just giving the order.

Pt 3. - Although I think pt. 3 was just "OK", I think removing part three all together would be better. Compared to the way they made part 3, I would rather use my own imagination to find out what happened after part 2.


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I would have set up a subplot involving Sonny's son Santino, who was completely overlooked. I would have had Santino resenting Vincent, who stepped over a "legitimate" Corleone. Also, someone (anyone) else would have played Mary and I would have made Michael less whiny and introspective. grin


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07/18/03 06:46 PM
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I'd tweak the deleted scenes up to the standards of the quality of the rest of the films and release them on DVD in chronological order.

Mick


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Re: Tweaking the Godfather #26354
08/19/03 01:56 PM
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First of all, someone said that GFIII was great because it drew on real events - all the GFs drew on real events. The whole story line from I to III uses real Mafiosa events to frame the fictional Corleone story.
Second, as far as story/film changes:
1. Get rid of Sophia Coppola, God bless her, her wine is good, but she cannot act.
2. Either explain the Pantangeli succession better or get rid of that story line and insert a Clemenza plot line.
3. Make Mike less "soft". The Mike from GFII would never have reconciled with Kaye - unbeleivable!
4. Show the Fabrizzio execution - we all felt better with that closure.
Maybe have GFIII show some flashbacks (as in GFII) of Vito's rise during the 1930s and then just before Connie's wedding. Perhaps have it mirror the plot in GFIII.


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Re: Tweaking the Godfather #26355
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Mandatory - Make Lucy Mancini better looking. grin


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Agreed.

Best thing to Do?

ELIMINATE THE ENTIRE GF PART III SCRIPT AND MAKE A NEW ONE!

Switch to a different Studio. Paramount was to much on FFC's ass.

Too bad they own the Rights.

I saw NOTHING, I MEAN NOTHING wrong with the Other Two Movies. Exept for Moe Green's eye.
And Add ALL THE DELETED SCENES TO THE MOVIES! Exept for the ALternate end Of GFI with Kay going to pray for Michale.

I Cant live without that "No" to close the Godfahter.


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