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French don't believe in America
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12/15/02 05:59 PM
12/15/02 05:59 PM
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My GF DVD in French starts with the second line "I made my fortune in America" instead of the famous "I believe in America."
I don't know french well, hence my use of the language option as practice. But I am sure of this on my DVD. Is something wrong with my DVD? I just can't believe this ommision! It must be intentional because the opening is so famous!!!!??? I can't even begin to imagine that this is some French political decision?!!
"A refusal is not the act of a friend"
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Re: French don't believe in America
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12/16/02 03:54 PM
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I mean the audio, the dubbed version in French - the option in which one hears French spoken in approximate syncronization with the movement of the actors' lips. The DVD I'm referring to has 3 audio options 1) English 2) French 3) FFC Commentary. It also has subtitles in English only.
When I listen to the DVD in French, the first thing I is something like "jai fait ma fortune en amerique" (sp?) which is the second line "i made my fortune in america" instead of "i believe in america" ..
As you have a different version, I hope someone that bought it in North America replies.
"A refusal is not the act of a friend"
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Re: French don't believe in America
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12/16/02 04:05 PM
12/16/02 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by DonsAdvisor:
I hope someone that bought it in North America replies. Well, this is a really interesting one, DonsAdvisor: I selected French as the language and, as you said, Bonasera's voice didn't say, "I believe in America"--the first thing he said in French was "L'Amerique, elle a faite ma fortune" ("America has made my fortune"). But then I turned on the English subtitles. While the screen was still dark, before Bonasera's face and voice showed up, a subtitle appeared saying, "I believe in America." Then Bonasera appeared, saying, "America has made my fortune."
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: French don't believe in America
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12/16/02 05:18 PM
12/16/02 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by Turnbull: Originally posted by DonsAdvisor:
[b]I hope someone that bought it in North America replies.
I selected French as the language and, as you said, Bonasera's voice didn't say, "I believe in America"--the first thing he said in French was "L'Amerique, elle a faite ma fortune" ("America has made my fortune"). But then I turned on the English subtitles. While the screen was still dark, before Bonasera's face and voice showed up, a subtitle appeared saying, "I believe in America." Then Bonasera appeared, saying, "America has made my fortune."[/b]but can you also hear Bonasera say it (in French), something like "je croire en l'Amerique" ??
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Re: French don't believe in America
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12/16/02 07:54 PM
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Turnbull/Pherdy..
I see/hear the same thing that Turbull describes. The second sentence is "America has made my fortune" (I miswrote it above). First, the screen is black when Bonasera utters "I believe in America" (also on my VHS tape). Then the picture begins showing Bonasera and he continues talking. In the french version, I never hear the first line.
"A refusal is not the act of a friend"
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Re: French don't believe in America
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12/19/02 10:21 AM
12/19/02 10:21 AM
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"weird weird weird" to quote Pherdy. What have they done to the US DVD version ???  I can only speak for the French DVD which has English and French subtitles. I've checked both the French version and the French subtitles and they differ slightly but the first sentence is not missing : - said : "J'ai confiance en l'Amérique. L'Amérique, elle a fait ma fortune." - subtitles : "J'ai confiance en l'Amérique. L'Amérique a fait ma fortune." What is weird for me in the French version is that the cannoli became canneloni  which is absolutely ridiculous !!! I first saw GF on French TV when I was a kid and that's the thg that upset me the most ! Not the killings or Sonny's fits of anger but the canneloni !!! ![[Linked Image]](http://www.thegodfathertrilogy.net/emoticons/rotfl.gif) So the famous line, "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli" became "Laisse le flingue et prend les canneloni"  And many years later I was very surprised to learn that Coppola himself had supervised the French version, how could he have missed that ???
"Come heavy or not at all." Uncle Junior to Tony S.
"Nenti dire ca nenti si capi" come disse quello. (Say nthg when U know nthg.)
"Chi non ci vuole stare, se ne vada." (If U don't like it here, go somewhere else.)
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Re: French don't believe in America
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12/20/02 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by Almammater: [QB So the famous line, "Leave the gun. Take the cannoli" became "Laisse le flingue et prend les canneloni" [/QB] Well, at least they left the lasagna at the wedding party. 
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: French don't believe in America
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12/20/02 01:40 PM
12/20/02 01:40 PM
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May be that's just how the French call the cannoli: Canneloni. After all, Fettucine as called in America, is called Tagliatelle in France and Belgium. And i watch a lot of French movies and they are usually accurate in their translation and subtitles; except for a few alteration here and there so the word could make sense in French. But i doubt that it would be a mistake.
"The end justifies the means"
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Re: French don't believe in America
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02/06/03 09:28 PM
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I could say alot about the French but I will refrain. I believe it was intentionally left out.
They are not "pals" with Sicily and never have been. I personally do not think that France deserves the devine gift of The Godfather. They may have back Chocolate if they wish. Italy/Sicily and France never had good relations.
(this was not intended for people of french decent but for those French who dislike Italians.)
Sinceramente,
Don Ferro
And you liar, teller of tall tales: you trample all the Lord's commandments underfoot, you murder, steal, commit adultery, and afterward break into tears, beat your breast, take down your guitar and turn sin into a song. Shrewd devil, you know very well that God pardons singers no matter what they do, because he can simply die for a song.
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who knows? there could be a replacement disc in it for you 
