I squeezed it in - 70 mins, not bad...

Always a good sign when 19 kickers are drafted in an 11 team league. :rolleyes: And I didn't draft a single one. Let the autodraft special...shine a light on me. Let the autodraft special...shine her everloving light on me.

Jesus, it's draft night. Let's get some activity in here. Maybe this will drum up some people. Whoever drafted Chad Johnson, I sure hope your Johnson holds up. Teeheehee. :rolleyes:

So you need a Kicker, huh?


Don Cardi

Ya, I was the last guy who hadn't taken one yet, so I figured I might as well wait till the end, but when Lundi was there, I couldn't not take the guy. How can a starting running back be available in the 17th round of the draft? I guess I'll have to make a pickup before week 1. Not too worried about that position though.

Good question. Why do half the people that signed up stop playing 1/4 into the season?

I just now remembered that the draft for the points only league was yesterday. Oh man this year is not off to a good start.

Course I've been so busy trying to get financing in order, as I'm trying to buy my brothers 2001 Dodge Ram Quad Cab 4X4.


Oh well I can't complain about my team at all. Only question is I had the 8th pick and I still managed to get one of(if not the best) QB's in the game today. Not sure how that worked out. But I'm not complaining.

I actually can't remember who I drafted.

That's the one with the rifle rack already built in, isn't it? :p At least you drafted them.

Half of my picks were made by Yahoo while I was busy fighting with the GF. :rolleyes:

Rule # 1: Never tell them that you need "another half hour or 45 minutes on the computer, and then you'll take care of it"

Oh yeah.......[whine alert][/whine alert]

That I can understand.

They're so far behind that they lose interest.

But 11 people registered for this game, no one is "behind" yet, and we've always had good attendance for the drafts themselves.

I know there a few people that would have liked to attend the draft last night but couldn't, but I don't know about the rest.

I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens when the season starts.

At least in a Points Only Game their actions don't affect anyone else.

I meant to make the draft but I got held up with the parents. I definitly don't need two kickers so make me an offer I can't refuse. Also I have two top tight ends if anyone is looking and two defenses I don't need. All I really want is a running back.

What's the name of your team? And maybe we can make a deal. I'll take another look at my team if I'm able to while I'm at work and see if I might be willing to trade someone, I'm sure there's at least 1 or 2.


How did you guess.

Commish, I hit the wrong button on the trade proposal I got from sex panther. Obviously, I'm not trading Cadillac for a kicker. :rolleyes: This is why I hate these worthless trade proposals.

That is a stupid trade, I would have given ya 2 kickers and Jerome Bettis for Cadillac

All joking aside, did someone REALLY propose a REAL trade as Cadillac for a kicker straight up?

I'll void it or disallow it or whatever verb they use to describe it.

Thank you Plaw. It wasn't straight up, but it may as well have been. The trade was Crumpler and Jeff Reed for Cadillac and David Givens. Considering I already have Ben Watson, who will be a top 3 tight end by the end of this season, even if I was a moron who didn't realize how worthless kickers are, why in the hell would I want Crumpler? Maybe if I was so desperate I had already cut off 5 fingers and 3 toes, I would've considered it. I guess you can't blame the guy for trying though. I have seen much stupider things happen in life, so it was worth a shot.

In this case I don't need an explanation.

You said you hit the wrong button by accident - that's good enough for me, even if the trade had somewhat made sense.

It's not like this could be a case of you changing your mind the next day or something.

We've held the draft in the evening for every game we've ever played that had a live draft because most of the players usually do live somewhere towards the East Coast.

In this game, 6 of the 11 players live on the East Coast, and two othes are in the Midwest, one hour behind.

It'll be about 1 or 2 in the morning for Turi I think, and 3 hours earlier, about 4:45 PM for JB.

I'm not sure who the Shark is, so I don't know where he's from.

Where do you think I'm from? North Dakota is Central time. The draft was at 6:45 for me, a perfect time, IMO. I guess it could start later, considering it only took a little over an hour due to the number of no shows.

Unless you were thinking of someone else in the league on the West Coast, but had me in the back of your mind due to my incompetence clicking a mouse button properly.

My bad. That post was mainly directed at DMC, since he inquired about it, but I did directly address you to begin, so I can see where you got that impression. I guess I'm just posthappy now that I actually have something to comment about on the board. Politics and congrats threads aren't my cup of tea and the Godfather section on the board is deader than disco.

Here's the current scoring for the Points league. Perhaps we should review this before the game starts...

Passing Yards (22.5 yards per point)
Passing Touchdowns (6)
Interceptions (-3)
Rushing Yards (10 yards per point)
Rushing Touchdowns (6)
Reception Yards (10 yards per point)
Reception Touchdowns (6)
Return Touchdowns (0) zero?
2-Point Conversions (2)
Fumbles Lost (-3)
Offensive Fumble Return TD (0) zero?
Field Goals 0-19 Yards (3)
Field Goals 20-29 Yards (3)
Field Goals 30-39 Yards (3)
Field Goals 40-49 Yards (3) 4 maybe, if -2 for missed?
Field Goals 50+ Yards (4) 5 maybe, if -1 for missed?
Field Goals Missed 0-19 Yards (-3)
Field Goals Missed 20-29 Yards (-3)
Field Goals Missed 30-39 Yards (-3)
Field Goals Missed 40-49 Yards (-2)
Field Goals Missed 50+ Yards (-1)
Point After Attempt Made (1)
Point After Attempt Missed (-2)
Sack (1)
Interception (3)
Fumble Recovery (3)
Touchdown (6)
Safety (3)
Block Kick (3)
Points Allowed 0 points (14)
Points Allowed 1-6 points (12)
Points Allowed 7-13 points (8)
Points Allowed 14-20 points (5)
Points Allowed 21-27 points (-2)
Points Allowed 28-34 points (-5)
Points Allowed 35+ points (-9)

JG I'm assuming the fumble recovery for a touchdown is zero because the player would get 3 points for the fumble recovery and then 6 for the touchdown through the other scoring system. Thats what I'm assuming though, commish?

My 2 cents: I agree with JG about return TDs. If you're going to reward special teams for a blocked kick, then they should also be rewarded for a return TD. Unless the return TD was referring to individual players, then I agree they shouldn't get anything. Special teams plays belong to D/ST units, not individual players.

As far as kicking goes, I don't really have an opinion. That is the most detailed kicking scoring system I've ever seen. I know it's an attempt to make the kickers a little more meaningful, but the fact remains kickers are basically just there. IMO, it just adds more luck to the game, since kicker's production varies so much from year to year. There really isn't the strategy involved in selecting top players like at other positions because history has shown that top kickers rarely stay that way from year to year. Plus, breaking a long TD run doesn't count for any more than someone who trips and falls forward at the 1 yard line and gets a TD, so kicking shouldn't be any different. Plus, if the goal around here is to make it as lifelike as possible, all FGs count for 3 regardless.

Despite all this pointless analysis(my school's high school football game just got over and I'm trying to warm up before I go out), it's kind of late to make changes. People drafted based upon the settings of the league, so to change them after the fact is not a good idea. Granted, from the looks of some teams rosters, most owners didn't put a whole lot of time into their draft strategy, but if even one did and it affects that owners team, it wouldn't be in the spirit of the game to change it now.

Okay, I just saw Douche's scoring explanation on Page 1 (July! ) and see the reasoning... never mind!

No. Drunk Turi doesn't count as me drafting them. Plus I had other things on my mind which I didn't get that night anyway.

Oh yeah and have fun with the next draft you buggers. I can't make it but I'll be thinking of you all. Well not really but I'm anxious to what I'll be auto drafted.

Is there anyone else who would like to play in this league to take my spot? I don't really wanna bail the night before the draft, especially since the league is sitting at a perfect 12 teams right now, but I have a meeting I must attend tomorrow and I fucking hate autodraft. My team is gonna be complete shit, thus I'll have no chance of competing, so what's the point? I just thought I'd throw this out there in case someone else wanted in or another owner wanted out so the league could either stay at 12 or drop to 10.

JB - Is there any way a buddy of yours can draft for you?

Commissioner's Note

Glad to be back, guys. Pretty interesting draft we had for the points league. It's too early to tell but my autodraft makes me nervous. My whole year rests on the gimpy shoulder of Clinton Portis and how I recover from the wasted 3rd round pick of Domanick Davis. My receiver position is a mess as well.

I just wanted to remind you all:

H-2-H Draft is tonight, Wednesday September 6th @ 7:00pm Eastern

Also, I know some of you requested this and I wanted to make sure it's clear before our draft tonight.

Rules on Non-Playing Teams for the Head-to-Head League

Hopefully, we won't have to resort to this since the H-2-H League was by-invite-only and I trust you guys to play the entire year, but if we ever come to a situation like last year where some guys just stop playing to the detriment of the league, I wanted to lay out my rules on it.

Plainly put, it's 2 Strikes and You're Out. Strikes are simple. If in any particular week, you play a player that:

- is on a bye week
- or is clearly not playing and listed as "Out" or "NA" or "IR"
- or you leave any roster positions empty

... you get a strike for that week. If a strike occurs, I will inform the league each Tuesday when I post the scores.

In my opinion, those are the only things that should count as strikes. I am not here to legislate strategy so if you want to play a "Doubtful" DeShaun Foster, go ahead. If you choose not to help yourself through Free Agency, that's your choice. But if you play a player that is clearly not playing, then you're hurting the competitive balance of the league and in the words of Vito, "that, I do not forgive."

Just to be clear, even if you have multiple infractions in the same week (e.g. you have one player on bye, one player on IR, etc...), that still counts as only one strike. Strikes are for weeks, not for individual instances in any particular week.

What happens after you get a second strike? You're out. You will be locked from making any more changes to your team. Control of the team will be shifted to the League of Commissioners (JG, Plaw, DMC and myself) and we will objectively decide on the best team possible from every week thereafter. The locked team will not be able to make any trades and can only make free agent acquisitions if the team is in dire need of filling roster spots (* subject to the Commissioner's discretion). If the locked team is playing someone in the League of Commissioners in any particular week, the playing Commissioner will step aside and the remaining two Commissioners will decide on the locked team's line-up.

There is one way to erase a strike though. If you decide to leave a roster spot open because you believe there were no viable replacements in your line-up or on Free Agency and you can convince me of that by PM or through the boards, then I will erase the strike against you.

Please let me know what you think.

DON CARDI : But I must have strict assurance from Plaw -- as time goes by and his position becomes stronger as a co-commissioner in the league, will he attempt any individual vendetta?

DON MALTA : Look -- we are all reasonable men here; we don't have to give assurances as if we were lawyers...

DON SICILIA : You talk about vengeance -- is vengeance gonna bring your Wide Receiver back to you? Or my Quarterback to me? I forgo the vengeance of my QB -- But I have selfish reasons. My backup QB -- was forced to leave the game, --

(then, as he stands, with SC's assistance)

-- because of this 2 strikes and you're out business. All right -- and I have to make arrangements to bring
him back to my roster -- cleared of all these false charges that he cannot play. But I'm a superstitious man -- and
if some unlucky accident should befall him -- if he should get a shot to the head by one of Cardi's players
-- or if he -- should hang himself in his locker-- or if he's struck by a bolt of lightning -- then I'm going to blame some of the people in this league. And that, I do not forgive.

DON CARDI : Then let me say that I swear -- on the souls of my runningbacks -- that I will not be the one to break the rules that Don Sicilia has made here today...





Don Cardi