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G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269178
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BIG BLUE 6 and 2 !!!!!






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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269179
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I was worried for awhile in the 3rd quarter.

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They seem to be playing a heck of a game this season. I watched last week's game on tv and Tiki looked amazing. And think, he could have gotten more then 206 yards if he stayed in the whole game.

I was especially pleased with their win this week beings I have Eli Manning on my Gridiron football roster.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269181
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Yeah, like Beth, I saw last weeks domination over the 'skins and the Giants look to have a good season under their belt. Eli's taken the reigns and is doing superb, Tiki is running well and that (who I called the best second receiver in the league whilst at Pittsburgh) Burress is proving he's a first go to receiver, whoever's at QB.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269182
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Yea baby Im lovin it!

Just about everybody has been stepping it up. If things stay on this track, the Giants WILL win the division (Which is the toughest division in the NFL).


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269183
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I don't want to believe what I'm seeing. The offensive line is protecting and opening holes. It appears that the defense is starting to find a rythmn. Oh can it be true!?

They have to stop with the stupid penalties.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269184
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They beat my NINERS

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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269185
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Wow. This Giants team has to be the worst 6-2 team in NFL history. I'm forced to watch the Vikings game every single week, and this still has been one of the worst NFL games I've seen in awhile. That's saying something when we're talking about the Vikes. As usual, the Vikings are trying their hardest to lose the game, but the Giants seem to be even more inept. I think we can put to rest all the "Is Eli better than Peyton?" speculation for awhile. I'm glad I grabbed Eli this week in our salary cap football game. :rolleyes:


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269186
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This may be the worse performance that I've seen by the Giants Offense since last season. Simply FLAT!

Jimmy, I don't know about them being the worst 6 and 2 team. That's stretching it a bit.

As for comparing Eli to Payton, I agree. That sort of speculation is very premature. Eli has long way to go to get there.

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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269187
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Don't worry, DC, I'm aware they aren't the worst 6-2 team ever. I don't think there is any way of ever knowing that. Just a little hyperbole. I'm just shocked at how the game has transpired. Good football teams don't come out and play like this against bad teams. Good football teams do lose games they should win from time to time, but not in this fashion. Why don't the Giants just punt the ball out of bounds as soon as they get it. The Vikings offense is incapable of scoring. Oh well, at least the Vikings still have a chance to lose it, because the Giants sure as hell aren't going to win it.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269188
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First time in NFL history a team has scored by a punt return, kickoff return, and interception return in the same game.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269189
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And to the Vikings no less! All I can say is the Vikings were 1-23 in their last 24 road games coming into today. No way should they have even played the Giants close.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269190
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Just one of those unexplainable mojo things.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269191
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Quote:
Originally posted by Jimmy Buffer:
Wow. This Giants team has to be the worst 6-2 team in NFL history. I'm forced to watch the Vikings game every single week, and this still has been one of the worst NFL games I've seen in awhile. That's saying something when we're talking about the Vikes. As usual, the Vikings are trying their hardest to lose the game, but the Giants seem to be even more inept. I think we can put to rest all the "Is Eli better than Peyton?" speculation for awhile. I'm glad I grabbed Eli this week in our salary cap football game. :rolleyes:
Since INT's don't count in the game, Eli's numbers this week turned out quite decent. :rolleyes:

Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269192
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That loss really hurt. Instead of facing Philly with a 7 - 2 record, now they face Philly with a 6 - 3 record which baically makes the Philly game a MUST WIN game for the Jints.

And not for nothing, but why in the world does Coughlin call a play that has Eli QUICKLY spiking the ball with plenty of time left? Make another play, let the clock run down more, then if you don't score on that play or unable to stop the clock by getting out of bounds, THEN you call the SPIKE the ball play. Very confused with that call. Had they not spiked the ball and let some more time come off the clock before they scored, Minnesota is not left with that much time to drive down and kick that field goal.

And what the hell was Shockey thinking when Eli's arm got hit and the ball looked as though it had been fumbled? There was no whistle and yet Shockey runs next to the 3 Viking players who are going after the ball for a possible recovery and Shocky never even attempts to get the ball but runs next to them clapping his hands! You play that ball until you hear a whistle!

Special Teams, well what can I say except

Bad Offense, questionable coaching, disgraceful special teams play, and a Defense that played well enough for a team to win every weak.

I hope Coughlin whips their asses in practice today.


Terrible loss. Just terrible.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269193
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Coughlin was on with Franscesa & Russo this afternoon, and they asked him about the spike play.

He said that he felt it was worth it to give up the down in order to assure that they were completely well organized for the next play.

Since the scored on that next play, he felt he made the right decision.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269194
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Quote:
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Since the scored on that next play, he felt he made the right decision.
So basically he called that play to get the time to set up the next play. But my thinking at the time was to take a shot at another play and let the clock run down at the same time. If the play is successful but falls short of the end zone, then you've run down the clock some more and then you can spike the ball and set up a scoring play. Or if they take a shot at the endzone and score, they've still run down the clock and hopefully have not left enough time for Minny to drive and kick a possible field goal. That was my feeling at the time he called the spike. I'm thinking score and run down the clock at the same time.

But he's the one on the sidelines and we're the ones posting on the boards.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269195
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At least you didn't say that you could coach the Giants better than Coughlin, like Don Smitty said he could manage the Yankees.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269196
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R.I.P. Robert Tisch

Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269197
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Ron Dayne did more for the GIANTS yesterday against Dallas than he did as an actual GIANTS player!


No excuses now. This Sunday their destiny is in their own hands.


GO BLUE!


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269198
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The Giants-Dallas scenario is interesting.

A Dallas win yesterday could've practically locked up the division for them.

Now, even if the Giants lose on Sunday (likely, I think), they're still far from out of it.

They'd be tied with Dallas at 7-4, and their remaining schedule, excluding next week's game with Dallas (@Phila, KC, @Wash, @Oak) looks about the same difficulty-wise (if not a bit easier) as the Cowboys (KC, @Wash, @Carolina, StL).

So the biggie for them would seem to be next week.

Assuming that they lose to Seattle, if they lose to Dallas also they'd be a game behind the Cowboys with Dallas holding the tiebreaker even if the Giants do make up the one game behind.

If they lose to Seattle and beat the Ciowbys next week, and both teams finish with the same record, it would come down to the next tiebreaker after head-to-head, which is what? Divison record? Conference record? Points differential in their two games? Record against common opponents?

Of course if one of them suffers an unexpected loss, then all of the above is subject to change.

I must admit that the Giants have surprised me this year. Coming of off Eli's unimpressive finish last season, I figured they'd do well to go 8-8 this year, or, at best 9-7.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269199
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Don't count my boys Santana and Mark out... it aint over til the fat lady sings. GO REDSKINS


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269200
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Jay Feely better get his ass into hiding, because if I find his ass, he's fucking dead


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269201
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Quote:
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Jay Feely better get his ass into hiding, because if I find his ass, he's fucking dead
I realize you are joking but you realize the guy probably will be getting death threats over that? It's a game, let it go.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269202
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I was kidding, but he missed 3 game winning field goals from distances that were more than make-able. He deserves every bit of scrutiny he receives in the next week.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269203
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Quote:
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I was kidding, but he missed 3 game winning field goals from distances that were more than make-able. He deserves every bit of scrutiny he receives in the next week.
Scrutiny yes, death threats no.


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Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269204
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As an impartial viewer of the Giants-Seattle game, I have the following comments:

Holmgren is an idiot with his play-calling. On Seattle's last drive in regulation and first drive in OT, he put the ball in Alexander's hands one time. And that was negated by a holding call. How in HELL do you not give the ball to the league's leading rusher? If, for no other reason, to run the clock down in regulation and give yourself better field position.

Had Feely not missed at the end of regulation, Holmgren would have been 2nd guessed all week. And I didn't agree with NY's decision on the 1st OT field goal attempt - it was over 50 yds. He should have punted it and pinned Seattle.

Like I said, I don't have a rooting interest either way. But Seattle is lucky to be 10-2.

Re: G-I-A-N-T-S !!!! #269205
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Quote:
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Had Feely not missed at the end of regulation, Holmgren would have been 2nd guessed all week. And I didn't agree with NY's decision on the 1st OT field goal attempt - it was over 50 yds. He should have punted it and pinned Seattle.
I agree. He should have punted. From what the announcers were saying about his kicking in warm-ups, he had no chance of making a 54 yarder today. I don't understand how he was short on the 44 yarder. I don't know how the Giants prep for Dallas after a loss like this. I have a bad feeling about next week now.

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Quote:
Originally posted by Raulito:
Don't count my boys Santana and Mark out... it aint over til the fat lady sings. GO REDSKINS
It's over now.

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We can all pick apart various plays that were called and decisions that were made.

But the bottom line is that Feeley had THREE, count em, THREE ooportunities to win that game for the GIANTS, and he choked on everyone of them!



THe penalties where just outrageous! The Giants play a more disciplined game penaltywise and it doesn't even come down to OT.

But still, the bottom line is that Feeley sucked the big one today.

Made me F**KING sick!


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