I would agree is he was a real untested rookie, but he has so much International experience and success, that I would leave him in there as long as he continues to play at the level he is.

This looks like a tough week for me. I have several days with little or no players playing.

For reasons like this I am starting to lean more towards Fantasy scoring then Head to head scoring.


Don Cardi

For reasons like this I am starting to lean more towards Fantasy scoring then Head to head scoring.


Don Cardi

I hope the "Kevin Weekes Experiment" is over soon. :rolleyes:

For reasons like this I am starting to lean more towards Fantasy scoring then Head to head scoring.[/b][/quote]That's what I don't like about the head-to-head format that we use in Yahoo Fantasy Football.

Too much depends on the luck of the schedule and who you happen to be playing on a given week.

You can have the second or third highest score for the week, and just happen to be against one of the one or two players with a higher score, and come away with a loss.

Conversely, you can have one of the lowest scores of the week, and just happen to be playing someone with an even lower score than you, and come away with a win.

Last year in our football league I was able to construct a schedule for each player that would have enabled him to finish first or second had that been the actual schedule for him, with the other players schedules built around it.

In Fantasy Football there is an even amount of games every sunday, so with a head to head league, if my team is playing your team this sunday, it's a head to head game and the scoring would be fair for both of us because every NFL team, except the two with a bye
( where you would replace them with your reserve players that week ) plays the same amount of games per week.

In hockey, a player on your team may only have two games on the schedule for a specific week where a player on my team may have four games on their schedule for that specific week. And that is where the weekly head to head scoring competition becomes lopsided with Hockey. I've realized that Fantasy scoring with hockey is much much better, and more fairer then head to head scoring.


I use NFL.com fantasy football, head to head and it is very fair and works very well. IMO NFL.com is the best, and most fairest fantasy FB league out there.


Don Cardi

Ok, now I understand what you are saying about the Fantasy Schedule itself. But if you really think about it, NFL football itself works the same way. The Giants can play Dallas and score 21 points and lose if Dallas scores 24 points. But by the same token the Giants can score 17 points against Washington and win if Washington only scores 14 pts. So at least fantasy football mirrors NFL football as far as matchups for a teams schedule.

But as I said, fantasy Hockey is more of an unfair type schedule when using head to head scoring because of the specific reason that I stated above.


Don Cardi

It looks as though Just Lou and I are the only ones actively playing this game.

What's up guys? Ever hear of waiver pick ups? :p


Don Cardi

Yeah, DC, but the difference is this:

In real football let's say the Giants lose this week 35-28, and their 28 points would have been good enough to beat 10 of the other 12 teams that are playing this week.

But it was their defense that allowed the 35 points.

In fantasy football, if I have a great week that was good enough to beat everyone else in my league except the team I had the misfortune of being scheduled against on that particular week, my "defense" - since there is no defense against what your opponent scores - had nothing to do with the loss.

It was strictly the bad luck of the scheduling.

Then there are the "bye week" factors.

Whoever happens to play Turi in the Gangster BB League on Peyton Manning's bye week, or whoever plays Don Sicilia on Ladian Tomlinson's bye week, obviously has an advantage that no one else has when playing either of them, and that advantage, again, is based strictly on the luck of the scheduling.

I believe that overall points are the only absolutely fair way of scoring.

True, there are injuries which can affect your team, but that's part of real football too. The scheduling quirks in a head-to-head fantasy game are not.

For reasons like this I am starting to lean more towards Fantasy scoring then Head to head scoring.
[/b][/quote]Well, it didn't matter this week. The team I was playing just left his players on the bench.

In week two action, Just Lou bumps DMC down a notch in the standings and climbs into the first place position. Maple Leaf's "Reg Dunlops" make a huge move in the standings, climbing out of the cellar and into 4th place, leaving Plaw's Left Wingers, who won only two games last week, in last place. Double J also took a plunge falling from 3rd place to 7th place in the standings!

C'mon Plaw, DoubleJ, you guys have to set those lineups and use the waiver list!


League Standings as of Monday October 24th 2005 :

1 fiveforfighting JustLou 19 -7-4
2 DMC DonMichaelCorleone 16-10-4
3 Staten Isle Rockets Don Pelosi 12-11-7
4 Reg Dunlop Maple Leafs 12-13-5
5 The Broadway Blues Don Cardi 12-14-4
6 The Ice picks Ice Man 12-14-4
7 Buffalo Chill Double J 11-15-4
8 Plaw's Left Wingers Plaw 9-19-2


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Don Cardi

"Maple Leaf's "Reg Dunlops" make a huge move in the standings, climbing out of the cellar and into 4th place"

**************PROPOSED LEAGUE SETTING CHANGE****************

Right now the league is set up that a Goalie must make a minimum of THREE (3) appearances for a team per week. I personally don't think that this is realistic. In the NHL if a goalie plays only one game that week, his win or loss counts in the NHL. So why shouldn't the same apply here?

I can change it to 1

Does anyone object to changing this Goalie appearance requirement setting from 3 games per week to 1 ?

A simple YES I AGREE TO THE CHANGE or NO I DO NOT AGREE TO THE CHANGE will suffice. No 100 word post are needed for this. :p

Don Cardi

I think a good reason for not having it at 1 would be if one of your goalies at the begining of the week has shutout, or only gives up a goal and has a great save pct, you could bench your goalies the rest of the week and win GAA and SV%. 3 Goalie starts, with 3 goalies, is nothing for a whole week. If people are playing everyday, they should have at least 6 or 7 starts per week.

Good point Lou. But by the same token if your Gaolie has a shutout at the begining of the week and then only plays one more NHL game the rest of the week, you don't get credited for that shutout.


We also have the option to make it a minimum of TWO games if we want to. We can do that also.

I personally think that a 3 game minimun start is just to many. There are many instances where a starting goalie on an NHL team will get hte first two starts for the week and then the backup guy gets the third one.

So maybe changing it to TWO games minimum would be more realistic.

So we can decide if it should stay at 3 Games, be changed to 2 games, or changed to 1 game.


Don Cardi

I think that 2 games is a more realistic number.

The same goalie doesn't have to play 3 games. It's 3 games total for all your goalies. It has to be that way, because I've yet to have 1 goalie play 3 games in a week, but I still got credit for goaltending stats.

2 goalies is fine by me.

GO LEAFS GO!

Are you sure about that? If you are then I misinterpreted the rule.

Why then would they have that rule? It's not as though you can sit all of your goalies on the bench. And if that is the case, and all three of your goalies have a start that week, then you would be able to do what you originally said, you can sit the goalie that got the shutout in the begining of the week and just start your other goalies in his place.

Am I misinterpreting something with this rule, Lou?


Don Cardi

Ok Lou, I researched the rule. You are right. I misinterpreted it to mean NHL starts. It's Fantasy League Team starts.

"In all public leagues, a goaltending tandem must make at least three (3) appearances each week. Should a tandem fail to meet this requirement, their fantasy team will automatically lose all four of the goaltending matchups."

We are a private league, so therefore we can change the minimum number of required starts.


So the question to everyone now is : Should we just leave it at three or make it two?


Don Cardi

Yes, it has to be. If you check your "matchup score" for the week, at the top, your score for W's, GAA, SV%, and SHO, are the totals and averages of all your goaltender starts. I'm
99.9% sure I've never had a single goalie play 3 games in 1 week. Until recently, I didn't even have the same goalies all week.

Do you object to changing it to two games minimum?

I researched the rule and you were right. Thanks.


Don Cardi

If it were up to me, I'd increase it to force the people in our league to actually play the damn game. Otherwise, I'd leave it at 3. With 3 goalies on your roster, even if you never change them you should still have more than 3 games played in a week.

It doesn't matter to me. I don't see it making much difference.

I agree to the change.

Ok. The majority of the team owners in our league agreed to make the change from a 3 game requirement to a 2 game requirement.


Don Cardi

I like the change from 3 games to 2 games a week. I haven't been feeling well the last couple days that's why I haven't posted on this until now.

This week Plaw managed to claw his way out of the cellar with an impressive 7-1-2 record.

Just Lou held on to sole possesion of first place by posting a 6-3-1 record for the week.

Maple Leafs had a bad week posting a 1-6-3 record and dropped into 7th place in the standings.

But the bomb of the week was from our friend Double J who has now taken over last place from Plaw by posting a 1-7-2
record for the week.

Who says that the Left cannot overcome the Right?

******LEAGUE STANDINGS AS OF MONDAY OCTOBER 31st******


1 fiveforfighting 25-10-5 .688 55pts. Just Lou
2 DMC 22-11-7 .638 51pts. DMC
3 Staten Isle Rockets 16-16-8 .500 40pts. Don Pelosi
4 The Broadway Blues 17-18-5 .488 39pts. Don Cardi
5 Plaw's Left Wingers 16-20-4 .450 36pts. Plaw
6 The Ice picks 15-20-5 .438 35pts. TheIceMan
7 Reg Dunlop 13-19-8 .425 34pts. Maple Leafs
8 Buffalo Chill 12-22-6 .375 30pts. Double J

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Don Cardi

I have a question for the more knowledgable fantasy hockey league players here. Ok here it goes like I stated earlier in this thread this is my first time of playing fantasy hockey. And the way this league is set up Just what all is determined in a players record for the entire week?