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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265332
09/27/05 02:07 PM
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We need bigger PM boxes.

I can't help it if I'm so popular. :rolleyes:


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265333
09/27/05 02:24 PM
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How on earth I managed to pick 11 correctly straight-up and only 6 with the spread is beyond me.

Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265334
09/27/05 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
How on earth I managed to pick 11 correctly straight-up and only 6 with the spread is beyond me.
It's the anti-MoJo.


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265335
09/29/05 08:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
How on earth I managed to pick 11 correctly straight-up and only 6 with the spread is beyond me.
I'm actually shocked at how difficult it's been for me to pick ATS. It's not a system generally used in UK gambling so I've had to learn it through, initially, Henry Hill's Wiseguy and then I had a little refresher when I signed up for this game. Hopefully my game will pick up soon.


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265336
09/29/05 09:03 AM
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How do they do it in the UK, Turi?

Straight up, with odds only?


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265337
09/29/05 09:30 AM
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Yeah it's mostly odds. With soccer being our main sport there's little or no room for spread betting - scores are too low. I guess it could work for rugby but as far as I know they're just regular odds still. A favoured way of betting on a soccer game here is by choosing a winner and first goal scorer with the odds accumulated.

Or another favoured betting method, like our straight up game, pick winners and their odds are accumulated. Pick up an accumulater sheet from your bookies (it'll have all the league games, maybe 40 approx) and you can choose as little or many winners as you like. I assume you can do that in the US too with the NFL?


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265338
10/01/05 01:37 PM
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Okay, besides the first week, I haven't made any picks, and I'm just giving up now that i missed two weeks. I haven't had too much time (homework) and also my computer's internet has been messing up on a regular basis everytime I get on a website, so it was kind of complicated to make any picks so I just said screw it.


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265339
10/03/05 12:47 AM
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WEEK 4 - Final

Against the Spread
Code:
        
    WK4    TOT 
       
MC   9     34   
MA   9     32   Mrs McNabb holding her own!
JL   8     32   
PL   8     32   
DB   9     30   
SP   4     26   
TU   8     24   
JG   8     24   
JB   5     22
DM   4     22   DMC holding *his own* :P ;)
DA   -     17   DNP
DC   6     10   Started Week 3
      
 
Straight-Up

Code:
        
    WK4    TOT 
       
PL   9     41
DB  11     40
BD   9     37
JB  11     36
SP  12     35 
JG  10     35
TU  10     34
MA   9     32  
DM   8     32

       
 



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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265340
10/06/05 09:13 AM
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I've just looked at the upcoming games and is going to be a make or break week for us all. This week looks to be the hardest so far this season for simply picking winners. If I see scores of over 9 for ATS and over 10 for SU I'll put it down to luck.


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265341
10/09/05 09:20 PM
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I forgot to make picks for against the spread

It's a sad day in the DMC household

I try to play every single day, even thought it might not have appeared that way in Fantasy Baseball I was lol


"You gave your word, I never gave mine"
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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265342
10/10/05 06:08 AM
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I don't think you were the only one DMC. Marycas must have forgot to also - unless he failed to get any correct ATS picks which is a bit unlikely. No one could have chose SF over Indy.

DMC, if it were up to me those that accidently miss weeks should get an average of their scores performance. I'd give you 6 points for this missed week based on a mean of 9, 3, 6 and 4. And 9 for MC. And, is it Don Andrew? (Let's go Fins and Skin'), 6 for his week 4 performance he missed.


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265343
10/10/05 11:40 AM
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Absent-minded fantasy owners can go into "Edit Entry Settings" and sign up for the Weekly Email Reminders, if they can't remember that football is played every Sunday. :p



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin

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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265344
10/10/05 11:48 AM
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WEEK 5 - FINAL

Against the Spread
Code:
        
    WK5    TOT 
       
JL  10     42   
DB   9     39   
MA   6     38   
PL   5     37   Getting beat by a chick
SP   9     35   
MC   -     34   Costly DNP, from 1st to 5th
TU   8     32   
JG   5     29   Still sucking
JB   6     28   
DA   7     24   
DM   -     22   DNP 
DC  10     20   Started Week 3
      
 
Straight-Up

Code:
        
    WK5    TOT 
       
DB   9     49  
PL   8     49  
BD  10     47  
SP  10     45  
JB   7     43  
TU   7     41  
DM   8     40  
JG   5     40  
MA   6     38   Mrs McNabb doesn't like it straight up?

       
 



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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265345
10/10/05 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Absent-minded fantasy owners can go into "Edit Entry Settings" and sign up for the Weekly Email Reminders, if they can't remember that football is played every Sunday. :p
When did they start that?


I would never want to get points or average points on days I didn't play.


Yeah this Mrs McNabb is a joke lol :rolleyes: :p


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265346
10/10/05 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
I would never want to get points or average points on days I didn't play.
Don't worry - you won't. :p

How can you remember to go straight up, but not against the spread? (I'll leave the double-entendres to you lol)



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265347
10/10/05 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[b]I would never want to get points or average points on days I didn't play.
Don't worry - you won't. :p

How can you remember to go straight up, but not against the spread? (I'll leave the double-entendres to you lol) [/b][/quote]in all honesty I think it's because I was a higher percentage rank in straight up so I made sure to get those in first. I was worrying about a free agent pick up in the league with Cardi (that I'm 5-0 in, the only undefeated team thank you very much) because I had Caddillac Williams, Dominic Davis and Lamont Jordan as my running backs so I was worrying about getting someone who wasn't hurt or on bye week lol

Guess I just forgot

I would never expect to get points


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265348
10/10/05 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
...in the league with Cardi (that I'm 5-0 in, the only undefeated team thank you very much)...
How would I know that? There's no COMMISH in that league to keep score, so it doesn't count. All I see is you now 2-2-1 in the "real" league... :p



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin

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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265349
10/10/05 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[b]...in the league with Cardi (that I'm 5-0 in, the only undefeated team thank you very much)...
How would I know that? There's no COMMISH in that league to keep score, so it doesn't count. All I see is you now 2-2-1 in the "real" league... :p [/b][/quote]Do I need to get Cardi in here to back me up?

I think an NFL league is more "real" than a Yahoo League

My team name in that league is Tuscany Grill


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265350
10/11/05 07:40 AM
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I'm filing an official protest with ESPN Fantasy. I submitted a pick for Week 5 and it .....went into outer space. (At this point all you guys are feeling really bad for me, right?) But I'm not gonna cry. It's my own fault for not checking. So I'll just suck it up and beat you guys anyway. :p


Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265351
10/11/05 10:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[b] [quote]Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[b]...in the league with Cardi (that I'm 5-0 in, the only undefeated team thank you very much)...
[/b][/quote]Do I need to get Cardi in here to back me up?

[/b][/QUOTE]

NYMEXFFL Standings at NFL.Com

CENTRAL DIVISION
Tuscany 5-0-0 (DMC)
BigBlue 3-2-0 (Don Cardi)
RomWarH 2-3-0
MeMachi 1-4-0

EAST DIVISION
GUnits 4-1-0 (Lil Miss Cardi)
Packers 2-3-0 (Flame Angel)
jetsrul 2-3-0
asibrad 2-3-0

WEST DIVISION
BurtsGi 4-1-0 (Don Smitty)
Warrior 2-3-0
StatenI 2-3-0
NFLGian 1-4-0 (DC Jr.)


By the way DMC, don't go bragging. I'm 5 - 0 over in my other fantasy league. The only undefeated team.

And this week in our Pigskin Pickem, I was 10 and 4 ( along with Just Lou) with my picks!
Only 2 points behind you in the standings. And I joined the 3rd week of the season.




Don Cardi



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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265352
10/11/05 10:21 AM
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Last time I ask DC to back me up in a fantasy thread :p


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265353
10/11/05 10:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
Last time I ask DC to back me up in a fantasy thread :p
That's why I always say " Be careful what you wish for." You just might get it!

Don Cardi



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Five - ten years from now, they're gonna wish there was American Cosa Nostra. Five - ten years from now, they're gonna miss John Gotti.




Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265354
10/16/05 05:18 PM
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WEEK 6 - Final

Against the Spread
Code:
        
    WK6    TOT 
       
DB  11     50   IND (-13.5)
MA  11     49   IND
JL   7     49   STL  
SP   7     42   STL  
PL   5     42   STL  
TU   8     40   STL  
MC   6     40   STL  
JG  10     39   IND  
DA   8     32   IND  
DM   9     31   STL  
DC   8     28   IND  Started Week 3
JB   -     28        DNP
      
 
Straight-Up

Code:
        
    WK6    TOT 
       
DB  11     60   IND (for everyone)
BD  10     57  
PL   8     57  
SP   8     53  
JG  11     51  
TU   9     50  
MA  11     49   
DM   9     49  
JB   -     43   DNP

       
 



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin

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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265355
10/23/05 08:03 PM
10/23/05 08:03 PM
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J Geoff Offline OP
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WEEK 7 - Final

Against the Spread
Code:
        
    WK7    TOT 
       
DB  10     60   
MA   8     57   
JL   5     54   
TU   8     48   
SP   6     48   
PL   6     48   
JG   6     45   
MC   -     40   "DNP"
DM   6     37     
DC   8     36   Started Week 3
JB   8     36   
DA   -     32   DNP
      
 
Straight-Up

Code:
        
    WK7    TOT 
       
DB  10     70   
BD  12     69  
PL   8     65  
SP  11     64  
TU   8     58  
MA   8     57   
JG   6     57  
DM   7     56  
JB  10     53   

       
 



I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

Whaddaya want me to do? Whack a guy? Off a guy? Whack off a guy? --Peter Griffin

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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265356
10/24/05 08:17 PM
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F this stoopida focking game. I Did Play. I even made sure I clicked the "Submit" button. F ESPN Fantasy Futbol. I protest.


Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265357
10/25/05 06:11 AM
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Straight up I've got 8 picks right and not 7 which is what ESPN are showing.

MC, again if it were up to me I'd give you an average based on either your past weekly performances or on the groups week 7 average.


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265358
10/25/05 11:11 AM
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Good week this week BD.

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10/25/05 07:08 PM
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Quote:
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Good week this week BD.
yo Yo YO !!! Big Dadday in Da House .....
and giving a shout out to all me peeps.

Thank you DB for acknowledging my good week - I need to close the gap - ewww that would sound nasty if you were a 'chick'. Anyway .... I wouldn't expect anything from PL - he is disappointing me with his play in the fantasy football league so far. He is losing - losing to 'chicks' also.

And he can't complain of a 5 day draft this time either ... :p Or that the system auto picked 2 QBS like last year. It seems left alone he did this himself. Personally I believe he needs a co-owner, with all the sports he is involved with. Not too late to turn the season around, I have faith in him. I would volunteer but I'm busy ... So I was thinking he should get a 'chick' to be co-owner. Buffy is one that comes to mind, but I know she is in some leagues already with her peeps. Gina is another but she is too absorbed watching her boys in the World Series, so that leaves Lezbo. PL and her will make a good team - if they can't get wins they will at least be grammatically correct in their choices and if all goes bad, she can take him out shopping.

And speaking of the other league - as Commish, I believe you need to step in and start kicking some ass over there. These teams can't take two minutes to at least start a line up. Pork should suspend anyone from the board for 2 weeks if they don't submit a lineup at least of players who are playing - I believe that is fair.

Hope everyone is 'behaving' I know some are not though .... but I won't name names ... :p

Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265360
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Quote:
Originally posted by Turi Giuliano:
MC, again if it were up to me I'd give you an average based on either your past weekly performances or on the groups week 7 average.
Kind of you sir. I'm recovering nicely from the overdose of sleeping pills. My doctor says that I should give up this Fantasy life and concentrate on something more realistic, like .... politics. :p


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Re: 2005 Pigskin Pick'em (2 games) #265361
10/31/05 01:35 PM
10/31/05 01:35 PM
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WEEK 8 - FINAL

Against the Spread
Code:
        
    WK8    TOT 
       
DB   7     67   
JL   5     59   
JG  11     56   :)
PL   8     56   
TU   6     54   
SP   4     52   
MC   9     49   
MA   6     49   (I must've gotten her wrong last week)
DM   6     43     
DC   6     42   Started Week 3
JB   5     41   
DA   -     32   DNP #3
      
 
Straight-Up

Code:
        
    WK8    TOT 
       
DB  10     80   
BD   7     76  
PL   8     73  
SP   8     72  
JG  11     68  
MA  10     67   
TU   9     67  
DM   9     65  
JB   7     60   

       
 
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I studied Italian for 2 semesters. Not once was a "C" pronounced as a "G", and never was a trailing "I" ignored! And I'm from Jersey! tongue lol

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