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Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264509
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Buy. Gruden's 24-24 as Bucs head coach. He hasn't had a winning season in 2 years, if he doesn't have one, he's on the chopping block.

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BUY OR SELL?: Is Jim Hasslet on the "hot seat?"


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Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264510
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Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264511
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Quote:
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BUY or SELL - The Jets will be the sleepier team to make the Super Bowl?
Sell. I'm gonna say the Carolina Panthers.

Now answer my Jim Haslett question. :p


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Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264512
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You skipped mine Don_Andrew
My bad, I was still writing my post up and gathering stats while you posted yours...


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Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264513
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[quote]Originally posted by Irishman12:
[b]BUY or SELL - The Jets will be the sleepier team to make the Super Bowl?
Sell. I'm gonna say the Carolina Panthers.

Now answer my Jim Haslett question. :p [/b][/quote]Sell - They're getting better. 8-8 isn't that horrible

BUY or SELL - Jerry Rice will retire after this season?

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264514
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Buy. Unless he has a phenominal year with Plummer, he will probably be relegated to under 40 catches this season, maybe even 25. If he does well though, he might give it another shot, perhaps even San Francisco may take him back to try and bring back some old magic.

Buy or Sell - Are you buying that Alex Smith gets the freshman woes, and goes on to a career similar to other first round picks like Jeff George, or does he become a bona fide superstar?



Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264515
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Buy - Smith is on a bad team and is not a good QB. He may be the Ryan Leaf of this decade. Sell on him being an elite QB.

BUY or SELL - The NFL would be better off putting Monday Night Football on at 8:00 pm EST in order to attact more viewers. This, more than who the announcers are and what pre-game b.s. they put on the air, attracts viewers.

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264516
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Buy. It it tough for us East Coasters who need to get up and go to work/school to sit through a game starting at 9 PM and not necessarily until 11 PM or 12 AM. If it was Friday Night Football, then that's a different story. Anyways, I'm looking forward to seeing MNF on ESPN, and NBC getting the Sunday Night Games.

Buy or Sell - MNF moving from ABC to ESPN is a good move.



Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264517
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BUY - Over 70% of homes in the US at least have "cable" that include ESPN, so its not that drastic of a move as many have made it out to be. Besides, ABC was losing millions per year on MNF.
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BUY OR SELL - The Patriots' 3 titles in 4 seasons is more impressive than the Dallas Cowboys' similar dynasty of success in the 1990s.

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264518
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Buy. For the most part, the competition and skill is much higher than it was overall in the early 90's. Not knocking those damn Cowboys, but the Pats have had to go through the toughest NFL teams 3 years in a row, endure personnel losses, and have players play alternate positions, and they still win. Even though the NFC isn't even worthy anymore, for the most part, the Pats have romped through EVERYBODY in the NFL.

Buy or Sell - We will not see the Patriots win the Super Bowl this year. In fact, it will be two teams we didn't even see make the playoffs in 2004, or at least made the Wild Card.



Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264519
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Buy the part about NE not winning the Super Bowl again this year. Too many changes: coordinators gone on both sides of the ball, Belichick calling the plays, and Bruschi out for the year.

Sell the part about a team not from the playoffs last year winning the Super Bowl this year.

And about the competition not being good for the Cowboys - does anybody remember Steve Young & the 49ers duking it out with Dallas in the NFC Conference Championships? Those games were better than the Super Bowl. And the Bills were the 1990s version of today's Colts and Dallas beat them twice.


BUY or SELL - Holmgren never wins another title (as a head coach) without Favre and vice versa.

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264520
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BUY - Fact is, the NFC outside of Green Bay is too tough for Favre and his squad and well, Holmgren's SEAHAWKS are one under-playing club that will never live their great potential.

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BUY OR SELL - The first non-American city to actually land a NFL franchise in the future is Mexico City.

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264521
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Sell - I think Canada will get it before Mexico does

BUY or SELL - Eli Manning will be as good as Peyton in a couple of years?

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264522
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SELL - I think Eli will be a very good/great Quarterback, but as good as Peyton? Nope!

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BUY OR SELL - ESPN just announced their 2006 Monday Night Football team of Al Michaels and Joe Theisman, which is a great duo of broadcasters.

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264523
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Buy - I like Al

BUY or SELL - Dolphins make the playoffs this year with Ricky Williams back?

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264524
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Sell - Ricky didn't get them into the playoffs before he "retired", when Miami had a better team. He's not in football shape and he may not even get his starting position back if the rookie plays well in the 1st four games Ricky is suspended.

BUY or SELL - The Rookie of the Year will be Braylon Edwards

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264525
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Sell. It's going to be Cadillac Williams. Does Cleveland even have an offense?

Buy or Sell - Either Alexander or James are traded before the end of the season.



Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264526
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BUY - No way is Alexander going to be dealt with Holmgren still as coach - he's fighting to keep his job. Edge is expendable in that offense, although I think he's more key than Harrison. But I see the Colts point - Edge had major knee surgery and RBs usually have much shorter careers than WRs. But Harrison is already 33-34 and showing signs of slowing up. Indy should do another Faulk-Edge trade and get younger at RB by getting a stud.

BUY or SELL - Hines Ward's threatened holdout will help contribute to Roethlisberger's sophomore slump. That, coupled with the fact that Staley & Bettis can't get through a season without injuries, will limit the Pittsburgh offense's effectiveness.


In re: previous post - Cleveland's offense is only Braylon Edwards and perhaps Lee Suggs. Other than that, they have nothing of value.

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264527
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Sell, because I don't believe Roethlisberger will have a sophomore slump. Though yes, Hines Ward as a holdout will hurt the Steelers, especially since they lost Plexi-glass Burris in the offseason. And the Duce and Bettis should be able to tandem run it this year pretty well, as long as one doesn't get hurt. They should even up the carries so one or the other isn't overexerted.

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Buy or Sell - The NFC West is the worst division in football right now.



Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264528
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BUY - What other division in the NFL could a 9-7 or 8-8 ballclub could be division champs?!?!

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BUY OR SELL - If Tom Brady was to get in a auto accident and never could play football again, hes a future Hall of Famer.

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264529
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Sell: His run has been too short. He is well on his way, but he can't get all that credit for the Pats Super Bowl teams.

Buy or Sell: Players should hold out when they outperform their contracts because if they underperform, they will be cut.


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Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264530
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BUY - Its a risky act, but I understand many stars for doing it....except maybe T.O.!

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BUY OR SELL - Bill Belichick will suffer fatally without his two long-time Coordinators.

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264531
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Sell: I think it will be a lot tougher to repeat with those two gone, but I doubt he'll fall flat on his face. He's still got a lot of the same players.

Buy or Sell: Offense wins games. Defense wins championships.


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Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264532
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BUY - Look at that Baltimore Ravens-Super Bowl winning team.

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BUY OR SELL - Michael Vick is underrated in terms of being a Quarterback by most Football writers.

Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264533
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im gonna have to sell that one...while he does have great talent..he is just not a pure quarterback...yet...if he cann work on that arm then he will be a great quarterback

buy or sell - the 49ers are gonna have a playoff appearence in the near future and theyre working on another greeat competitive team


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Sell - If, by near future, you mean this year or next

BUY or SELL - Carson Palmer is going to be in the top 5 in the league in TDs, Yardage, and completions in 2005.

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Buy. He's got the tools, and he's developed well. I think this will be his true breakout year. Housmanetc, etc, etc, Warrick, and Chad "that's my gold mouthgard, bitch!" Johnson should help him tremendously. Look for him near the top in QB rating and passing yds.

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Buy or Sell - Kurt Warner will rekindle his Rams magic with the Cardinals this season.



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Tough one. I don't buy that Warner will rekindle his Rams form but I think he'll play well enough and win games with those young recievers and now JJ Arrington in the back field. Their conference is weak, their division is weak so they could get a wildcard spot if they win 8 games. So slightly a buy there so I don't get muted.

Buy or Sell - Bruschi plays football in '06?


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Re: NFL: Buy or Sell Thread #264537
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Sell - What for? He has 3 rings and millions of dollars and still has all of his marbles. Why risk it? What's the significance of winning 4 rings instead of 3 - will he sleep better? Absolutely not.

BUY or SELL - Brett Favre has been riding the coattails of his own early career success. He has been a huge big-game disappointment for the Packers since 1999 and played very poorly in the playoffs.

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Sell. Brett Favre is a legitimate Hall of Famer, and one of the best QB's of our era. The Packers have come up short in recent years not because of him, but because they don't have the personnel to match their super bowl success (which included Brooks and Freeman at WR, Reggie White at DE, et al).

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Buy or Sell - There will be more trading this season in the NFL than in years past, especially with many "stars" unhappy with their current contract, including TO, Jevon Walker, Edgerrin James, and Shaun Alexander.



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