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Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263185
08/02/05 06:09 PM
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I agree with whoever said it above, if you get caught taking performance enhancing drugs you should be banned from the Hall of Fame. The Hall of Fame is for outstanding athletic ability, not outstanding chemical ability.

But being that sports is so much about money instead of the game I doubt that even that penalty would truly make the players reconsider.


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Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263186
08/02/05 09:29 PM
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I bet you these are the next words outta Palmeiro's mouth "I did not take steroids. Period. I took Viagra. Exclamation Point!"

Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263187
08/03/05 08:58 PM
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Uh-oh. Turns out Palmy wasn't just taking some dietary supplement, it was a hard steroid (stanalolzo or something, I forget the spelling), the same one that got Ben Johnson stripped of his Olympic medals in the 80's.

Hmm...and the more recent controversy is now MLB knew before he had his 3000 hit but didn't make it public until now...



Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263188
08/03/05 09:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Double-J:
Hmm...and the more recent controversy is now MLB knew before he had his 3000 hit but didn't make it public until now...
I didn't hear about that

Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263189
08/03/05 09:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Zadjali:
Guys lets not forget that he's one of President Bushs Best FRIENDS
What the HELL does that have to do with anything?


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Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263190
08/03/05 09:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don_Andrew:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Zadjali:
[b] Guys lets not forget that he's one of President Bushs Best FRIENDS
What the HELL does that have to do with anything?! [/b][/quote]The whole steroids thing is a leftist plot. :p


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Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263191
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Well, while Bush being friends has no bearing on this issue, it is said that he is likely going to be the next commissioner of MLB once he leaves the Oval Office.



Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263192
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Quote:
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Well, while Bush being friends has no bearing on this issue, it is said that he is likely going to be the next commissioner of MLB once he leaves the Oval Office.
That would make MLB a Bush League.


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Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263193
08/03/05 10:45 PM
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Double-J:
[b] Well, while Bush being friends has no bearing on this issue, it is said that he is likely going to be the next commissioner of MLB once he leaves the Oval Office.
That would make MLB a Bush League. [/b][/quote]Turning it into a B league will make it better than the "C League" it is now :rolleyes: :p


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Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263194
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Quote:
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Well, while Bush being friends has no bearing on this issue, it is said that he is likely going to be the next commissioner of MLB once he leaves the Oval Office.
Please tell me you are joking. He'll probably do a worse job than Bud's doing (if that's even possible)

Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263195
08/04/05 07:58 PM
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WTF? The O's fired Lee Mazzilli today. Wow. The only thing I can think of is that there is some kind of clearing house going down after this steroid deal. I dunno. They are slumping a bit, but still, Mazzilli is a great manager. I don't know what the hell the Baltimore Front Office was thinking.



Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263196
08/05/05 02:22 AM
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I remember Palmeiro with the Cubs in the late-'80's. No way he was a power hitter. He was more of a Mark Grace without a glove...and the Cubs already had Mark Grace. So they dealt Palmeiro and he never hit more than 14 home runs in any of his first five seasons. He had two nice season in 1991 and 1992. His home runs surged forward starting in 1993...which coincided with Jose Canseco's arrival in Texas.

He tested positive for stanozolol, an anabolic steroid that can be taken orally or injected. Winstrol is the brand name, you don't buy this off the shelf at GNC, and it isn't part of the ingredients in ANY dietary supplment you'll buy at the store. It's a controlled substance. It's the kind of anabolic steroid, like Dianabol or deca-Durabolin, that the bodybuilders and weightlifters (and later the football players) discovered in the 1950's and 1960's and were taking specifically to build muscle and gain strength at an accelerated rate.

Unless he's a burn victim, or suffered some sort of tissue loss that required prescription steroids to accelerate the creation of new tissue in the body, he'll be hard-pressed to provide an explanation that has anything to do with anything BUT the use of anabolic steroids as a perfomance enhancing drug.

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Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263197
08/05/05 08:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don_Andrew:
[quote]Originally posted by Don Zadjali:
[b] Guys lets not forget that he's one of President Bushs Best FRIENDS
What the HELL does that have to do with anything? [/b][/quote]What it has to with is that Bush interjected a few days ago saying that he believed Palmero 100%. Bush made a statement proclamining that he believed Palmero didn't take steroids. When the President comes to someone's aid as a character witness, it tends to make the news.

Re: Rafael Palmeiro LIED! #263198
08/05/05 10:59 PM
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In my opinion, he did one of two things:
1.Lied in front of Congress and took the steriods on his own
2.Someone "slipped him a preformance enhancing drug and told the truth in front of Congress.
Numero uno sounds more credible to me.


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