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Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244313
09/16/04 05:12 PM
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I think Bonds is a tremendous talent and even bigger a-hole. I definitely hope he falls short of 755 and Aaron's record. Hammerin' Hank was a class guy all around. Bonds is the complete opposite. If Bonds does break it, which he probably will if he stays healthy, many will snicker that it was because of steroids. If Bonds breaks it, I hope A-Rod or someone else from today's era breaks it quickly.

Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244314
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Again I haven't seen enough of Barry Bonds to dislike him. I know virtually everyone here hates him (which I'm somewhat still mistyfied about) but I'm rooting for him. I also would like to see someone like A-Rod (as a Yankee of course) to break it later on. I think it's only just to have the single season home run leader (73) also be the all-time home run leader. However, my choice to break 755 would have been Ken Griffey Jr if he would EVER stay healthy. It's a shame this year. He got his 500th and then got injuried again. What's going on with this guy? Old age or what? I'm sure Seattle is happy he's not with them eating up all of their money. You can't help but feel bad for Cincinnati though.

Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244315
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I hate Bonds almost as much as I hate TO. Both are ignorant assholes who should be used as kamikazes in Iraq. I just hope Bonds gets to 700 soon. I'm getting sick of them talking about it for 15 minutes on Sports Center each morning. -Pat


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Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244316
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I hope Bonds hits 713 next year and then has a career ending injury (nothing serious, just baseball ending).


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Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244317
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I like Bonds and hope he gets to 756. He's arrogant, but so what? Just like TO, he can back it up.


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Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244318
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I am not a big fan of Bonds, and I too hope he falls short of the record. Hank Aaron has always been a class act, and even with as much taunting that Barry is getting, Aaron got it far worse during the time that he was edging Ruth. Plus, Bonds is an arrogant prick, which disgusts me even more.

I do not like the fact that pitchers continue to walk him, but at the same time you have to wonder how Barry seems to be getting so much bigger and better in his late years. The same thing happened with Sosa, who hit more than 1/2 of his career HRs in a span of 5 years. Until the cloud of suspicion can be justified, I cannot say that I am cheering for Barry to break the record of records. He will probably break Ruth's number, but I really hope that Hammerin' Hank's record remains intact.


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Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244319
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You know what, there is too much haterism in this world.

I could understand hating Ray Lewis, because he's a murderer. Hating OJ, because he's a murderer. Wanting Pete Rose to be banned from the hall of fame for eternally for betting on the game.

Bonds is not the media mogul Babe Ruth was. So what? That sumbitch has God-given talent, and you know what? He's going to break that record, whether anybody likes it or not.

Stop drinking that Haterade, and watch a Major League Baseball record get broken. A historic event.



Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244320
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I'm with Double-J on this one. I think Hank Aaron was arguably the greatest of all time (Babe Ruth?) but the argument against Barry that he's not a nice guy doesn't carry much weight with me. I mean Ty Cobb was a real bastard but he will always be remembered as one of the greatest players in the history of the game. Regardless of how one feels about him Bonds is one of the 10 best probably one of the 5 best to play the game. Go S.F.!



Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244321
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Quote:
Originally posted by Double-J:

I could understand hating Ray Lewis, because he's a murderer.
His friend is a murderer. Ray's not. Don't ***** keep talking **** about Lewis all season. It's really ***** me off. When you have the ***** to go up to his face and call him a murderer, then let me know. I will personally be throwing **** and yelling at TO when I see the ******* play against Baltimore this year. I hope Lewis tears TO's ****** ACL. -Pat

(gratuitous profanity edited)


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Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244322
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Quote:
Originally posted by Double-J:
You know what, there is too much haterism in this world.

Stop drinking that Haterade, and watch a Major League Baseball record get broken. A historic event.
True that!

Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244323
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Quote:
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I'm getting sick of them talking about it for 15 minutes on Sports Center each morning. -Pat
Are you kidding? The ONLY thing that will stop them from counting EACH homerun from now until 756 is that the season is about to end. Prepared to be sick of it for the better part of the next year.

The only thing I'll be interested in seeing is how some in the media will try baiting Bonds into saying something stupid. He doesn't exhibit the class & humility that McGwire & Sosa did during their '98 chase of Maris.

Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244324
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Man you wanna talk about beating a dead horse, I remember in '98 every morning when I looked at the front page of the sports section, they'd also have a picture of Mark & Sammy and how they did the night before (if they hit any homeruns or not) and how many homeruns they had to date. I remember enjoying it and that'll be the same with Bonds. However I do wish he would hit it already b/c ESPN did the same thing with Griffey when he was waiting for number 500. Just let him hit it & then cover the story. Stop pushing it so much & adding more pressure to the guy. He'll probably just hit it to shut them up!

Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244325
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I want to see him do it as well. Just look at the highlights of Aaron hitting his 715th, it was an incredible moment and I would really like to see something like that again, even if it is with Barry Bonds who most people don't like.

The only problem is, this record may start to lose its meaning very soon. A-Rod will be 30 in July and by that time will have over 400 career homers giving him a great shot at passing Bonds wherever he may finish. Then we have Pujols who will be only 25 at the end of next season and most likely will have over 200 homers by then. My point is it seems very likely that this record will continue to be broken in the next 10-15 years or so which will make it lose its glamour and interest just like Bonds home run chase of McGwire in 2001 had nowhere near as much interest as McGwire and Sosa's chase in 1998.

Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244326
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I couldn't agree with you more Busta. My only beef is that if A-Rod does in fact break the record, I hope he's still with the Yankees. But as you said, Barry breaking this record probably fails in comparision to Aaron breaking the Babes record. Much like Barry breaking McGwire's record failed compared to McGwire & Sosa both breaking Maris' record. Do you guys ever feel that Sammy got short changed on that home run chase by the way??

Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244327
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Quote:
Originally posted by Patrick:
[quote]Originally posted by Double-J:
[b]
I could understand hating Ray Lewis, because he's a murderer.
His friend is a murderer. Ray's not. Don't ***** keep talking **** about Lewis all season. It's really ***** me off. When you have the ***** to go up to his face and call him a murderer, then let me know. I will personally be throwing **** and yelling at TO when I see the ******* play against Baltimore this year. I hope Lewis tears TO's ****** ACL. -Pat

(gratuitous profanity edited) [/b][/quote]Great Job Pee! We know one person who will not get The Newscaster of the Year Award. Then again it would make one heck of a great bloopers reel.


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You really don't expect people to believe your shit do you?

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Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244328
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Quote:
Originally posted by Patrick:
[quote]Originally posted by Double-J:
[b]
I could understand hating Ray Lewis, because he's a murderer.
His friend is a murderer. Ray's not. Don't ***** keep talking **** about Lewis all season. It's really ***** me off. When you have the ***** to go up to his face and call him a murderer, then let me know. I will personally be throwing **** and yelling at TO when I see the ******* play against Baltimore this year. I hope Lewis tears TO's ****** ACL. -Pat

(gratuitous profanity edited) [/b][/quote]Wow...I never had anybody call me that many names...I must be a star! A real ass-terix.

I'd feel fine going up to Ray Lewis and calling him a murderer.

When you have the ***** to grow up, let me know. We've got a few more years at the BB.



Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244329
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This is like that show on TV- The Wheel of Fortune.
Can I buy a Vowel?


ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
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You really don't expect people to believe your shit do you?

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Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244330
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lol...I bet that Pat's favorite vowels are "A," "I," and "U."

His favorite consonants are "S," another "S," "H," "T," as well as "F," "C," and of course, "K."




Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244331
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Quote:
Originally posted by Patrick:
His friend is a murderer. Ray's not. Don't ***** keep talking **** about Lewis all season. It's really ***** me off. When you have the ***** to go up to his face and call him a murderer, then let me know. I will personally be throwing **** and yelling at TO when I see the ******* play against Baltimore this year. I hope Lewis tears TO's ****** ACL. -Pat
"Very mature." :rolleyes:

Way to be a hypocrite.

I find it funny you have been calling people "immature" lately, as if that somehow makes YOU more mature. People who call other people immature in attempts to seem more mature themselves just make fools of themselves. Then you pull stupid bullshit like this. Next time, think before you speak -- you'll just you end up contradicting yourself again.


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Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244332
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'thn Lmbrd, sht th fck p, y bd ss!

(no vowels :p )



Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244333
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hy, dbl j, jst sht th fck p!!!11

Shit, sorry. I'm being "immature," again! :rolleyes: :p


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Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244334
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People are calling Bonds "one of the greatest athletes of all time". Now, I'm not saying he's not talented, but the guy is obviously a juicer. The fact that he denies it makes him not only a cheater, but a liar. Records are becoming less significant in sports today, because fans are left wondering how much of the players' success is due to their natural ability. For instance, when McGuire broke the record for home runs, I could have spit because he tarnished an achievement that was attained by someone else the right way. Anyway, things like steroids and lighter baseballs take the fun out of sports, and the importance out of records.


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Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244335
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True. The steriods issue is always going to be thought of with regards to Bonds and McGwire, but I think even without the 'roids, major league records are being broken regardless.

I mean, look at Ichiro Suzuki.



Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244336
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Quote:
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True. The steriods issue is always going to be thought of with regards to Bonds and McGwire, but I think even without the 'roids, major league records are being broken regardless.

I mean, look at Ichiro Suzuki.
Not only the steroids, but some of the players are hitting the weights and naturally getting stronger. How many is up for debate.

Other points: 1) expansion has diluted the pitching talent to the level that good hitters are feasting on crappy pitchers. Thirty years ago there were no situational pitchers, set-up guys, etc. There were starters and relievers, period. 2) the newer stadiums are very hitter-friendly compared to 25 years ago and beyond.

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700!!!







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Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244338
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Okay, he got the 700... good job Barry Bonds. However, in my humble opinion, I think he's got a bigger accomplishment. I had never heard him speak before the other night at his press conference, and I must say, I was very impressed with his diction and pronounciation. Pro baseball/basketball/football players usually speak with such disgusting "ghetto" rapper accents that I can't even tolerate hearing them. "Mad props" to him (and his parents) for his mostly proper speech. The only pro athletes from these 3 sports who speak properly are the ones who are not Americans... the ones who grew up in Paris, Prague, or wherever else. How ironic. :rolleyes:

Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244339
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I personally hope that Bonds DOESN'T break the Hr record.

I hate Bonds always have/always will.


Re: Are you rooting for Bonds to break the HR record? #244340
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The only thing I don't like is how he shits all over Babe Ruth's record. I mean, he said he never wanted to break Willie Mays (his godfather) record, and how Hank Aarons is like the pinnacle.

But he seems to bash Ruth white and left.

A bit of haterism in his game, eh?



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Quote:
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Other points: 1) expansion has diluted the pitching talent to the level that good hitters are feasting on crappy pitchers. Thirty years ago there were no situational pitchers, set-up guys, etc. There were starters and relievers, period.
I'm not sure what your point is here.

Diluted pitching should theoretically make it easier for the hitters.

Specialization and "situational" pitchers definitely make it harder for the hitters.

I don't agree about the diluted pitching, BTW. Having 30 MLB teams today with today's population of the U.S. to draw players from is roughly the same as having 16 teams in 1960, with the smaller population to draw from.

Not to mention the fact that we are also getting the best Latin American and Asian players over here as well.

There were plenty of marginal pitchers 45 years ago, just as there are plenty today.


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Quote:
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2) the newer stadiums are very hitter-friendly compared to 25 years ago and beyond.
Don't get me wrong because I love Babe Ruth and think he was the greatest ballplayer to have ever lived, but how many of his home runs ended up over the short fence of right field in Yankee Stadium? (A lot). That short field (296' down the line) was designed especially for him when they built Yankee Stadium.


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