bengals went 2-14 last year. just imagine if they could've kept spikes. they'd atleast have 1 decent defender. -Pat

*ahem*

The Bengals won 2 games last year...

AFC North
y-Pittsburgh 10 5
x-Cleveland 9 7
Baltimore 7 9
Cincinnati 2 14

I dont think either Cleaveland or Pittsburgh will win that division. Brian billick and the Ravens look much improved and dont be surprised if they take it. Although, dont look for them to make a super bowl run neither.

okay... week 9 just ended and what a game it was in the meadowlands. 5 seconds left in ot, and conway hits the fg to give the giants the win. Now if there are any giant fans there who arent in the hospital or dead of heart attacks yet, then u should be admired. three over time games midway through the season. a handful of special teams mistakes such as the westbrook punt return, the out of bounds kick off against dallas, and the famous botched fg last season against the niners. I was at three of those games, and I am almost afraid to be a giants fan because my heart cant take this shit. they have got to be the worst fourth quarter team ever, and its gonna kill me. and admist all of this bull shit, they are in the hunt for the playoffs. Irony.

RB

What a week for the NFL! I just saw the Packers defeat the Vikings 30-27 at the Metrodome on ESPN. The crowd definitely saw a lot of vintage Favre, passing for 3 touchdowns on the day. The Packers had 283 total rushing yards, keeping the tired Viking defense on the field. This game just saved the Packers' season, and hopefully they will continue to shine offensively. The game was influenced heavily by 3rd down conversions, and the Pack just played a little bit better.

To my fellow Packer fans: We can sleep a little bit easier tonight, but there still is a long way to go. There is now a brightening light at the end of the tunnel.

as someone who doesnt favor either the packers nor the vikings, I would tell packer fans to chase the wild card. they are a good team who has a legitimate shot at the playoffs, but this is Mike tyce's year. the vikings are the strongest team in the Nfc arguably and count on them to win the division. Look for packers getting the wild card spot along with the rams and maybe even the giants.

what a game last night. brett favre and ahman green both had great nights. no fumbles for green and only 1 pick for favre. his 3 TDS cancel that out though. if we beat philly next week, we're back in it. -Pat

My team is done (Oakland). At least my favorite college team (USC) is still in the thick of things.

Still not too late to get into Fantasy Basketball

Yea, I like the raiders, but im afraid its over for them for a while. if it aint bad enough that they got the oldest starters in the nfl, I just saw this shit on espn about callahan being disliked and not respected by the players. I think that might be the problem in oakland and if so, callahan is gone. after they fire fassel's ass, maybe the giants can sign him.

RB

I never do any fantasy sports anymore, because I have found it to take away from my enjoyment of watching. Instead of just watching a game, I have to be worried about how many points my team is getting. And I'm always too lazy to change the rosters when guys get hurt or start to suck, so I just don't play anymore.

How's Zo doing for your Nets, plaw?

I agree, I used to do NASCAR fantasy pool with a bunch of friends, and even though I usually finished in the money, it did really ruin the races for me, which I why I don't do it anymore. But I'd like to maybe start up again, especially if its for pride and not my cash.

Okay lets take a pole on when everyone thinks the chiefs are gonna lose if at all. I think they will lose on their last game against denver, but that will be their only one.

Well it's almost impossible to say. According to Chad Johnson, he guarantees a Bengals win this week. No doubt the Bengals are going to be pumped for this game, but it's ridiculous to think the Chiefs won't be.

So while you hear almost every single "expert" this week predict a stunning Bengals upset this week, I highly doubt that will happen. I won't say there's no way, because after all, this is the NFL.

After Cincinnati, we come back to Arrowhead to play the Raiders. Oh gawd, not the Raiders. Watch the Chiefs do something they failed to do in Oakland...blow the Raiders out.

The next week we go to San Diego. Flutie is probably the starter now, and we'll see how long his little spark carries this team. They could be very dangerous. But there's no way their D can touch our offense no matter if Flutie holds the Olympic Torch.

December 7th, Chiefs play at Denver. Plummer will be back, they'll be looking for revenge. We're going to have to bring our A game plus more. If there's any game we do lose, this will be it.

Dec. 14 Lions come to Arrowhead. A Chiefs blowout.

Dec. 20 at Minnesota. This game is almost like the late Broncos game. There's a good chance the Chiefs might go 14-2. This would be that other loss. Randy Moss can and probably will rip our weak secondary to pieces. The Chiefs defense will bend, but the Vikings D will break.

Dec 28 Bears come to Arrowhead. See Dec. 14 game


Will the Chiefs go 16-0? I wouldn't bet on it. But I wouldn't bet on them losing any. I'm just going to sit back and watch this outstanding season and let it soak in.

I have no doubt we will win the Super Bowl. We will have home-field advantage throughout the playoffs. That ensures us on getting to the Super Bowl. And I'm not afraid of any NFC team at all.

They have a realistic shot at it. They dodged a bullet when they came back to beat my Packers a few weeks ago.

JJ05
Are you on the team? We, we, we like the three little pigs....all the way home. I couldn't take another Dick Vermeil cry-fest. He's a great coach, but it does take a nut case to be one. But I guess any team who has a Priest might have an advantage. Good Luck.

GO COLTS!!!
i hope theyre gonna go all the way

If the chiefs cant take the AFC, I would like to see the colts do it. I love peyton manning and Harrison is one of my favorite recievers.

Does anyone here get the brand new NFL cable network channel??

sorry that's about all I can contribute to this thread. I promise to watch the Superbowl this year.

Congrats to all of you Bengals fans for winning against the undefeated KC.
BTW The Browns won also (it's about time)

well well giants... maybe next year. u didnt deserve to go any where this season any way. all talent, no determination. Fassel... ur the one of the most inconsistent coaches I have ever seen. when ur at ur best, the giants are amazing. when ur at ur worst, well... they are 4-6. If there is one person that has to be blamed for this piss poor season, it is u my friend. ur gone when this season is over so good luck and god bless. Maybe JImmy Johnson or who ever can do a better job. with so muc talent to work with, I doubt very much that anything less will happen.

Any other Bills fans who can't wait for that crackhead Greg Williams and his lap-dog yesman Kevin Gilbride get fired at the end of the year?

how about them packers? one game out of first in the NFC north. -Pat

ever since last week, I hate the Packers. They should have beaten the eagles, but they didnt. god damn them!

Well, I wasn't exactly pleased with last week's heart breaker either, but the Packers are only 1 game out of first place here! The Monday night game was just devastating; there is no excuse for fumbling the ball 6 times. Today's win against Tampa Bay just saved their season, so I can at least celebrate that.

raggingbull2003: I know that you're angry about the Giants season (to say the least), but I wouldn't go as far as to hate the Pack like that. I agree that Fassel has been inconsistent, and like the Saints, the Giants wasted a lot of great talent. Hopefully the Giants can end the season on a good note, because in the NFL you never know who will make the playoffs.

I know what ur saying. anything could happen in the NFL.
(I.E. Bengals over the Chiefs) Maybe I was a little rough on the Pack.

Hey!!!!!!! The Bengals are doing awesome this year!! I called the game!! At least give us some respect now that we are tied for first

If the bengals make the playoffs, I will go apeshit.

I have always believed the highest paid players on the team should be the linemen, especially offense. Running backs are a dime a dozen. Quarterbacks, a quarter a dozen.

Case in point. The Giants were suppose to kick ass this year because they had all these great players at the "skill" position. Their offensive line is comprised of half rookies and the other half are out of position.

Some of the great teams had no names at the skill positions. I'll go back to Oakland and Jim Plunkett - SuperBowl champs, mediocre quarterback, the center - Jim Otto. Mark Rypien, Doug Williams, how about old man Earl Morrall. Remember Bill Ring the running back on the first San Fran Super Bowl team. Last years Bucs?? But if you looked at the offensive line of each of those teams....veterans or at least guys that had been together for a few years. The Giant Super Bowl team of 1986 had a veteran line that made Phil Simms a better QB than he was.

Give the linemen $$$$$$$ and get a mediocre QB, RB and some elusive receivers.

Good point, but the Giants didnt suck this year because of lack of skill at the linemen position. True, there were many injuries and such to the line and yes, quite a few rookies had to move to starting positions. But what hurt the giants this season was overly conservative coaching and lack of intensity on the field. As far as im concerned, the giants o-line played pretty well considering the circumstances.

But I see what u are saying. without good linemen, the runningbacks cant play to the best of their ability. The qb cant have enough time to even have a chance to play, and if that is the case, the recievers cant do their job. They are no doubt an important factor to any team.