For a long while I thought this fight would never happen but it certainly looks like it's going to go ahead now.

I've always been wondering how is this fight going to go, I mean Tyson isn't the fighter he once was and has been fighting not the greatest of people, to say the least, lately. But he is an animal - he's crazy, he'll chew your ear off if he's hungry. Lewis had a very bad patch last year when he lost his titles but now everything is back around his waist again. And hopefully he can carry on with his world championship perfomances.

Now this is my sub-question;

Who do you think is going to win this? This is going to be one of the most largest revenued fights for a long time. Pay Per View is going to go wild for this.

My main question is this, the reason for this post;

Because Lewis is British it's pretty well known he's going to have alot of support from us back home. He's a national hero here. He's loved. But what is the case with Tyson, I can't imagine he would get his nation behind him. Especially with his whole rape ordeal and ear biting crazyness. Will Americans still back him? Do the Americans on this board want him to win?

I hope i've covered everything.

I can't believe it either Turi. I'm going for Tyson. I assume you're going for Lewis, as he is the representative of your country.

Well, I'm an American, but I'll be rooting for Lennox. Not only do I like Lennox, but I also think he will win. I know Mike Tyson is an animal, but Lennox is a bad dude too. And like you said Turi, Tyson is not the boxer he once was. But all I really know is that it will be one hell of a fight, worth many millions of dollars for both boxers regardless of whether they win or lose.

Well so far the Americans on the board are 50/50 towards Tyson.

Also another question. Any ideas where the fight will be held. I think a nuetral place would be more appropriate but it's either gonna be USA or England.

I think it should be a bare knuckle fight in the middle of the atlantic ocean where anything is legal, no law can touch you. I got this from the Simpons. Fighting monkeys could be the warm up show.

[ December 17, 2001: Message edited by: Turi Giuliano ]

It'll probably be in Vegas

Would that include ear biting?

Being an outsider to both America and England, I have no loyalties to either fighters. But I've never liked Mike Tyson and with recent events I now can't stand him. No one should respect an ear biting rapist. But anyways, I'd like to see Lewis win, but I think Tyson will probably beat him, not with a KO, maybe it'll come down to points.
But I'd definately be on Lewis' side.

No ear biting and eye gouging, no low blows too.

Yeah I thought it would end up in Vegas. It'll either be there, London or Manchester.

I see Lewis fighting Tyson the way Holyfield did in the first fight--very cool and calm, not showing fear, which will frustrate Tyson. Plus, Lewis will amplify the frustration by keeping Tyson at the end of his jabs. Tyson's always dangerous, but if he gets wild, he's finished.

I also just realised the whole fuss raised with Tysons last fight in the UK, I think it was Scotland. Most countries aren't allowed for convicted rapists from other countries etc to be let into their country. So probably to avoid the same kind of commotion it'll most likely be in Vegas or somewhere in the US. Also he's being investegated again for violence at the minute. I don't think many people would want him back here apart from Lewis fans wanting a home fight.

I think your absolutely right with your predictions Turnbull. Tyson will either turn into an animal and it'll work for him or his hotheadness (Sonny comes to mind) will finish him.

Yeah right, we'll see.

ah come on Turi....Louise was knocked cold by ONE right hand from a B GRADE FIGHTER Hasim Rahman.....Tyson is NOT Hasbeen Rahman...he hits TWICE AS HARD...one shot from Tyson and BADA BING Louise is out

Did you actually watch that Lewis fight when he lost? He was never knocked out cold. He lost fair and square, I don't argue that at all but the ref stopped the fight because twice his feet weren't working in co-ordination to his head. He was unprepared. He was very cocky and didn't do half as much training as what was needed because thats what he was a b grade fighter who he fought.

Now in the rematch he showed the world who was boss I think it was the 4th round he took Rahman out. He very confidently won that fight and I think that first loss againt Rahman was probably the best thing to ever happen to him. He'll go into every fight now with 100% confidence and preperation put into it.

Now the Tyson fight. Tyson isn't half the fighter he used to be at all. I'd put him at a B grade fighter nowadays. And this will be a huge fight for Lewis. His biggest, maybe not Physically but mentally because of who Tyson is. This is Lewis's fight of his life and he wont mess up again by being unprepared. Simple as that.

Tyson went downhill a long long time ago. Well before the Holyfield fight. That Holyfield fight Tyson knew he was getting his head kicked in and knew he wouldn't last much longer. So he did his ear biting to either be purposfully disqualified so he didn't officially lose the fight. Or if he got away with it use that ear for heavy punching which will cause so much damage that Holyfield would lose balance.

But I am still very undecided on this fight. It's going to be a tough fight for both of them. There is no way i'd be so positive to count Lewis out so quick.

i agree TYSON aint the same...but he aint no B GRADE HEAVYWEIGHT thats definite.....Tyson's assets = still the quick puncher and that DEVASTATING power....make up all the excuses you want, Louise was KNOCKED COLD sprawled out however u want to put it by HASIM RAHMAN like i said earlier IRON MIKE hits twice as hard as Rahman....what ya think gun happen WHEN TYSON catches Louise?

I don't think you've actually read any of the posts from this thread. I'm not saying Tyson has no chance. But it isn't going to be as easy for him as you have predicted. It doesn't matter how hard and fast Tysons punches are if he can't even hit Lewis. Lewis has the reach and patience to keep Tyson away and drag the fight for aslong as possible to wear Tyson down. Because Tyson like most of his fights, he really goes for it in the first few rounds. And with him not being the fighter he used to be he may not be able to stand the pace.

I am a big gambler but this is a fight I wouldn't put money on. If your that confident about Tyson, go to Ladbrooks or William Hills and put your money where your mouth is. If you put any bet on less than £100 I'd presume you not as confident about Tyson as you seem.

Tyson used to live about 15 miles from where I live, in a very exclusive part of NJ. He was married then, and the domestic abuse calls came in often. I think just about the last job I'd want would be as a cop having to answer a domestic abuse report at the Tyson residence.

Turi, i am actually planning a large wager on the fight....

Sorry Turi but Iron Mike will kick his sorry ass around the place.

I hope Mike Tyson dies a most painful, sordid, fantastic death. Something slow and agonizing. Goddamn criminal.

I agree with you on this one ( The death part etc.), but i love his boxing. Strange, but all those criminal guys seems to be good boxers. That Tonny Ayala Jr. dude is a criminal aswell but also a great boxer.

Maybe it's a sort od animal nature or so.

[ January 03, 2002: Message edited by: Don_Michel ]

Yeah but the real athletes and sportsmen are the ones who can control their anger and use it usefully in there field of excellence. That is why Lewis is big over here.

I really can't wait for this fight.

Thats true, but i love that animal nature of Tyson and Ayala Jr. It seems that those guys are blind and they fight on live or dead.

That's what i like about there "style", no remorse
just kill the weasel.

I hope Tyson brings the belt back to the states. Which I know he will. To hear some of you wishing him a painful death disgusts me. The man made a very bad mistake in life (Raping that woman). But the man has apologized and has turned to God. He is a devout Muslim and has straightened up.

Eh,I still hate him.

Not that I'm in on the "death wishes", but the "devout Muslim" still assaulted at least one person in traffic and bit the ear of a colleague (exposing several people to the possibility of Aids)...

He might be a spirited boxer, but he acts like an animal (Although admittedly, I haven't seen much of him lately, I still remember an interview with either TNT or ESPN where he started cursing all over the interview and the interviewer just had to tell him to get his dirty words elsewhere...)

A bad mistake in life. That woman might be sombody's mother, sister, daughter, cousin, wife. The list goes on. Even if she had no family at all it still isn't right. A bad mistake? I can swear you wouldn't say anything like that if anyone you knew was raped or in any other similar situation to that. Go back to your perfect world.



No he hasn't straightened up he's still got a few assault charges against him from recent months. He's like Sammy The bull. He can't leave his old lifestyle.

I've got no problem with you supporting him as a boxer. But his personal life leaves alot to be desired.

Mang it's getting close now. Can't wait and nervous at the same time.

Lewis is the odds on favourite with the bookies. Which doesn't mean much. It all depends on how long the fight will last. I've heard Tysons training isn't going to well but Lewis's is. The longer Lewis can keep this animal at length the less chance Tyson has. Tyson prepares for fights with the mentalty that his opponent is out to get him - not just in the ring and this really psychs him up. Tyson is no sportsman, saying he wants his opponent dead. Thats stupid.

I say the best boxing matches in the world are when both fighters can shake hands afterwards. this will never happen in this situation.

Isn't this fight in Memphis?

Snake, do you have the good seats reserved?????

Yeah, now in Memphis. This discussion was made well before a final destination was thought of. I only updated earlier today because of all the hype is coming back.