This deserves it's own thread.

I hate being black in this but it is MORE then worth it.

http://up.r0tt.com/3/Moto/page2.jpg

Im startin to get antsy. Hopefully the fruits of the summer will make time fly faster.

Do you have the rest of the pages available?

Well slap my ass and call me Debbie.

I changed the URL to page1 and got it. :p
http://up.r0tt.com/3/Moto/page1.jpg

There are 8. Just change the url to page1-8.

That sounded very racist.

There's a difference between being pro-white [as I am] and anti-black. I can see if you said "I hate being a thug/gangsta" but you said you hated being black. Are you pro-white or anti-black? You sound anti-black to me.

'k, continue on with the thread.

While I am not racist either, I do agree with DV. Being a lowlife inner city thug in this new game is not very appealing to me. If you read the dialogue from the missions that are located in the link, you can see that the word homie is said about a hundred times. I have a feeling that that will get annoying very quick.

Thanks for the link DV. The improvements on the game are gonna be awesome...

Oh, no doubt it's going to be annoying -- and I do not want to be a "thug" either. But he said "because I don't wanna be black" not "I don't wanna be a thug."

I just wanna be Tommy Vercetti.

This is how people like Pat ruin my life and drive me to the brink of insanity. Now I have to be some thug who somehow runs casinos with his "niggas". No more basking in the life of the mafia.

That sounded very racist.

There's a difference between being pro-white [as I am] and anti-black. I can see if you said "I hate being a thug/gangsta" but you said you hated being black. Are you pro-white or anti-black? You sound anti-black to me.

'k, continue on with the thread. [/b][/quote]My preference is white, nothing wrong with that it's a preference. I wouldn't mind being a non-gangsta type.

I hate you, Ant.

Yeah, I'm just busting his non-existent balls. I'd rather be white on the game as well, but what could ya do.

However, I think it'd be boring after three installments still being in the Mafia. I love the mob stuff, too -- but the game is Grand Theft Auto, not Mafia. I think this may be an interesting turn; just to experiment and change things up a bit.

Mine's bigger.

I feel the same way...

I agree with JJ. No mob is making this game more and more into a stupid gangland inner-city ghetto warfare thing, which I don't like. I might not be buying San Andreas.

I wish you all would stop your bitching. It's a fucking black guy and it's not going to change, and it's not like you HAVE to buy this game. Rockstar is not grabbing you by the balls until you buy it. It's your choice. You haven't even played the game, so you don't know if it's bad. No complaining is going to make the character white. Stop being pussies about it and move on with our lives. -Pat

That from the kid who's life was over when his manager at McDonalds told him to talk correctly.

I don't work at McDonalds you dick smacker. It's Arby's. Get it right and stop giving me shit. You think your some great guy. You ain't shit and you ain't ever gonna be shit. You make a living out of giving people hell online. Grow up.

OK, kiddies.....enough of this! Play nicely.

The games features well makes up for its character, which in my opinion dosent matter. The mob is still in the game too, Don salvatore Leone from GTA3 is in it.

Really I don't care who the main character is. I am a loyal GTA fan and will be buying it.

General

It's only available on the Playstation2 console
The release dates are explained here
The game's storyline is explained here
No loading times in the game except when entering buildings
The art team has hidden many goodies for fans to find (stuff that you see on the Tricks page for Vice City, those types of things) *NEW*
It takes place in the early 90s

Cities and Maps

The game takes place in the fictional state of San Andreas
This state has three cities explained here
Each city is the size of Vice City, meaning the entire game will be four to six times larger than Vice City
San Fierro will have many hills, and be driving based
You can drive from Los Santos, through the countryside, up a mountain and into San Fierro, then onto Las Ventura
Driving through the desert will be alive with weird things to see
There will be more buildings you can enter
Los Santos is a small part of the main map, and in the bottom-right corner
Los Santos takes up 1/5th of the entire map *NEW*
San Andreas has its own version of Hollywood called Vinewood *NEW*

Graphics

The graphics engine has been tweaked, not changed
There will be smog effects in Los Santos
Real-time reflections on cars, mirrors, and windows
Radial lighting which gives realistic shadowing
Soft-shadow lighting for interiors
Unique models for objects for night and day to add more realism
Able to say four times further into the distance than in Vice City

Gameplay

There is no online multiplayer mode *NEW*
There is 'rag-doll' phsyics, or 'impact animation' (adds realism)
In Las Ventura (Las Vegas), you can buy casinos and run them
You can gamble your money in casinos
You need to eat to keep up your stamina
Eat too much and you will become fat and be made fun of
Work off the fat by going to the gym to exercise
You can rob homes with careful planning
More new mini jobs such as taxi driving, etc
Anything done outside of a mission can change your abilities, appearance, and progress
Hundreds of different skills to learn
'Dynamic Difficulty' changes the difficulty of the gameplay to match your skill
You can recruit gang members, and use them to do four person drive-by shootings
Ability to swim
Recruit your own gang members to use in missions *NEW*
Use your gang to take over parts of the city
The police will do ANYTHING to take you down, including grabbing on to your rear bumper!

Characters

The main character's name is Carl Johnson
He can chew gum
Characters from the old game will return
You can change your clothes *NEW*
References to old characters from past GTA games will be in the game, only recognizable by hardcore fans
You can get haircuts which changes your appearance
Your looks will change how people interact with you
You can customize your character by changing his hairstyle, physique, weight, driving skills, clothes, possesions, weapons skills, relationships, and gang *NEW*
At least once every few days you will have to eat *NEW*

Weapons

Carl can use dual pistols, and other weapons
Improved gun targeting system
More hand to hand fighting techniques available
Weapons match those available in the early '90s
Weapons all feel unique
New improved targeting system includes targets with full health have a green bar, if slightly injured have yellow health, and enemies that are almost dead will have a red health bar

Vehicles

90's versions of GTA3 and VC vehicles will be in the game
Many more new vehicles
Improved driving physics
The police have motorcycles they use
Specialty vehicles can be unlocked
There are bicycles, and to make them go faster you'll have to hit X faster
You can perform wheelies on bikes (to clarify, this is wheelies on the bicycles, we all know you can do wheelies on the motorcycles!)
Police helicopters are back
More ways to steal cars
Vehicles have corrosion effects, such as getting rusty, as well as getting dirty *NEW*

Artificial Intelligence

Pedestrians are a lot smarter now, and react if you start beating someone in the streets
Peds have over 1 hour's worth of various comments, compared to 10 mins from Vice City

Music

There is a confirmed rap station
There are other stations yet not yet confirmed
There is music from the '90s as well as a classic station
Confirmed GameInformer information from gta-sanandreas.com, our affiliate. Any of this information might be changed, as no one knows 100% what will be in the final version except Rockstar.

http://gtadomain.gtagaming.com/confirmationlist.html

Again, thanks for the info DV. I'm so excited about this game!

This game is gonna rock. The new features are incredible, even though you could change clothes in Vice City. That isn't a new feature.

But seriously, who cares about being black or a "thug"? I've already accepted the fact that no one can be better than Ray Liotta's badass Tommy Vercetti.

The race is a big problem with this game. I'm not anti-black as long as they don't "diss" on Germans or Italians, the great white races.

But in this game, I want to be an Italian mobster, not a black thug. How can going from Italian mobster to gang punk gonna be fun?

Hopefully, there will be major requests for Tommy Vercetti eith Ray Liotta back, and they will make the game a choice between Vercetti and the thug.

this game is gunna be amazing, just that I dont really like how the main character is black. It ruins the game for me. Call me a racist as much as you want, but I dont like the fact that Im gunna be controlling a black guy and commiting crimes as one. Just doesnt appeal to me.

Great white races? :p They didn't look too great at the end of WW II. :rolleyes:

There won't be another Vercetti version. It was made for the Scarface anniversary. -Pat

Of course there won't be a Vercetti version soon. If anything, GTA 3 will be followed up, unless they go further back into 70's or before.

This sounds amazing.

I'm gonna enjoy the ability to 'swim'. heh.

It got rather irritating when you died when wading into 2-foot deep pools of water in the previous games.

The stamina system also has me curious. You need to eat to stay active and fit, yet if you consume too much you get overweight and slow down. I hope this doesn't get too hard to keep track of...

However I am looking forward to the new aspects of this game. There's supposedly going to be a new power scheme in effect.. such as gaining interest in organizations and owning major casinos in the Vegas imitation city. I'm anxious to see how you gain more power steadily without just killing everyone to do it.

This looks like it has the potential for a next-generation crime videogame.

All these new features sound nice and everything, but the only thing I am truly looking forward to is the immense size of San Andreas. Just thinking of all the territory I wil have to explore is getting me excited. And in more ways than one.