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Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220178
05/24/06 05:29 PM
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"Phil Leotardo is not happy with the current situation. Meanwhile, Chris is becoming more like Tony. Tony helps Carmela go back to work, and A.J. finds that his job has some fringe benefits."

I wonder if this is another step towards a career in the mob for AJ.

Does anyone else reckon we are in for one hell of a cliff-hanger?


"Just When I Thought I Was Out - They Pulled Me Back In....."
Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220179
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No doubt. It's almost ineveitable.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220180
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What do you suppose they mean by Chris being more like Tony?


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220181
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A.J. can't be part of the business hes not tough and isnt that bright


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220182
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AJ's not that bright so he can't be in the mob? AJ look in the mirror, that Fredo staring right back at ya bud.
Honestly though, seems if the construction job will show anyhting is that he's got a cush job being Tony Sopranos kid. If its good enough for Finn its good enough for Baby Bing.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220183
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but with him in the mob is unreal. he wouldn't survive long. He doesnt listen to anyone. If he does get in he will prolly be killed.


Travis Bickle: Loneliness has followed me my whole life, everywhere. In bars, in cars, sidewalks, stores, everywhere. There's no escape. I'm God's lonely man. -Taxi Driver
Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220184
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sounds intresting cant wait for it


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220185
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Is this airing on Sunday or are they holding out a week?

Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220186
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They are holding out a week. It airs in June, the sunday after the Sunday of Memorial Day Weekend. I believe it is June 4.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220187
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Good episode. I felt really bad for uncle Junior tho and i thought chris was going to get whacked


Travis Bickle: Loneliness has followed me my whole life, everywhere. In bars, in cars, sidewalks, stores, everywhere. There's no escape. I'm God's lonely man. -Taxi Driver
Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220188
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"At least she's catholic..."


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220189
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Not the best ending for a season finale.. Wish they would of pushed a war a bit so I had something to look forward too..

What will happen.. Phil and Tony will get together to watch their grandkids grow?

Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220190
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So, anyone wanna tell me what happened? I didn't get to watch the episode, all the rain over here fucked with my cable.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220191
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Not the best ending for a season finale..
Thats an understatement. I was disappointed in this episode (especially considering it was a season finale).


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220192
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Two best lines of the night, and given within minutes of each other:

So was the Hindenburg.

A pint of blood costs more than a gallon of gold.

Pretty good episode, although a bit too much of Christopher and the drugs. Nice to see AJ growing up a bit. I thought it was funny that he bribed the teenage punks.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220193
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I was somewhat disappointed with no major whacking, although I loved the scene with Tony and Phil in the hospital.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220194
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Not a bad episode, but I too thought perhaps somemthing "big" would happen.

All and all good but a disappointing finale IMHO.

TIS


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220195
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I thought it was nice how the episode was dedicated to John Patterson. Patterson directed every season finale of the show since it began in 1999, and passed away in 2005, so this was the first one he did not direct. Great tribute I thought.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220196
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Thanks Anthony,

I saw that dedication and didn't know who he was. Yea, it was nice.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220197
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Quote:
Originally posted by Toni_corleone:
What do you suppose they mean by Chris being more like Tony?
No idea, unless the fact that the honeymoon's not that far over and he's got a goomar.


Montauk

We might be able to tape the gun behind it.
Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220198
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Originally posted by hova4ever9:
A.J. can't be part of the business hes not tough and isnt that bright
Well, he showed that bulb's not completely burned out. When he tried the Soprano Macho act by going out and confronting the yewts, he sized up the situation and realized he couldn't handle that action. But instead of crying for Mommy or punking out, he stepped up to the line but with a different tack: offering them a taste of luxury in exchange for clearing out.

So maybe the Fredoesque AJ has a bit more Michael in him than we woulda suspected, hmm?...


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220199
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I found this artical on MSN about the finale, calling it a disappointment.

Link to the full article is below.

""Disappointing finale: This Thanksgiving- and Christmas-themed season ender is the last new "Sopranos" episode before the final eight shows kick in in January. And what a disappointment it was. Tony discovered that Christopher was sleeping with Tony's own failed conquest, Juliana, and even that didn't spark an emotional outburst. So many random plotlines in this episode seems to be just filling time. What't the incentive for viewers to even return in January? With this as the pentultimate season-ender, it feels like "The Sopranos" has started shooting blanks."


http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13101699/

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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220200
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I was mortified. The show has finally hit the shitter in my books, although for some reason, I still eagerly await the final 8 eppisodes.

About Christopher "Being more like Tony," I think that was refering to how Christopher went about stealing the insurance agent from Tony. If you think back to season 4, Tony did the exact same thing to Ralphie with Valentina.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220201
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I was mortified. The show has finally hit the shitter in my books, although for some reason, I still eagerly await the final 8 eppisodes.

About Christopher "Being more like Tony," I think that was refering to how Christopher went about stealing the insurance agent from Tony. If you think back to season 4, Tony did the exact same thing to Ralphie with Valentina.
The only thing is the realtor was a Tony reject. Val was a goomar-in-progress for Ralphie Boy.

The BIG irony is, as much as Tony feels like he missed out on a real prize, he really dodged a huge bullet. Being strung out does nothing for one's sex appeal, imho.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220202
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This has been a whole season of random plotlines. So much got started with so many different characters, and almost none of it went anywhere. I'm glad it's over because I've grown tired of being disappointed every Sunday at 10PM.

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Seriously, what the heck was that?
I feel really betrayed this season. I love this show, and the characters are great, but the lackof payoff is starting to get under my skin. If David Chase would actually commit to doing these shows in a timely fashion I think I deal. However, we wait nearly two years for a new season and it ends with a Sopranos Family Christmas.
Listen, I'm not mad, its just that this season seemed like it was on auto pilot. Granted the plane that's on auto pilot is a great plane, but you've got to do something.
Anyway, my two cents.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220204
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Let me start by saying, I understand where the dissapointment is coming from. "Last" episode of the season and no major hits or huge plot developments...depending on how you view it. First of all, this was absolutely not the last episode of the season. No where have I read the next 8 episodes are called Season 7. They are still part of season 6. Yes, we have to no wait until January for them, but none the less they are bonus episodes which make season 6 extra long. Secondly, I agree with what Joeybats said in a different thread. This is all set up for the last 8 episodes, which makes total and complete sense. They are, as Joey correctly put, restablishing who these characters are, and what they each stand to lose when hell breaks out.

I personally believe this part of the season ended beautifully and peacefully and thats what needed to be done. The entire family (more or less) sitting around at Christmas time in a visually attractive final shot. Carmella even emphasized the fact that the family is beautiful. Now we have this picture of beauty lingering with us for the next 7 or so months. In the last eight episodes, I believe it will be torn apart.

Yes, Tony seemed to have "made peace" with Phil while he was in the hospital with the heart attack. But we must keep in mind that Phil didn't say anything back to him. Tony told him not to cry, though even if he did touch Phil with his words, we saw how Phil's crew still treated him disrespectfully. They will not understand what Tony and possibly Phil understand about the importance of life and family, etc. because of their near death experiences. Also, as the FBI agent told Tony, there are rumors of a hit of someone close to him floating around. Phil could have possibly Okayed it before the heart attack and they could carry through with it before he gets the chance to say nevermind. Then again, who says Phil will even change anyway.

I still predict a NY vs. NJ war for the final 8 episodes. I have a hard time seeing this amazing television series ending happily. (Though I wouldn't mind if it did.)


-Fooz
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I am starting to think Chase may go another direction and there may not be a war.. Maybe this is a dream still, or maybe all good will come out of it, or maybe with Agent Harris and the Two Arabs FBI will come down on the family.

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I personally believe this part of the season ended beautifully and peacefully and thats what needed to be done. The entire family (more or less) sitting around at Christmas time in a visually attractive final shot. Carmella even emphasized the fact that the family is beautiful. Now we have this picture of beauty lingering with us for the next 7 or so months. In the last eight episodes, I believe it will be torn apart.
I agree.


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Re: Season 6 Ep 12: "KAISHA" ***SPOILERS*** #220207
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Having watced from episode one what was that we saw last night? It looked like Sopranos meets porn. Chris was doing it, A.J was doing it. When a show has to rely on that much sex there is no storyline IMHO. Of course if we saw weekly killings this would also say the show is bogus because the mob doesn't act like that. Anybody catch the line where a sit down is needed to kill a boss and there was only one instance where that didn't happen. That was a reference to John Gotti who ordered the hit on Big Paul Castellano. Bobby going to see Uncle Junior was nice. I have a feeling this is going to lead to something. I still think Junior is acting and not as feeble as everybody thinks.


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