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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220022
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How about Baccala. This guy is a made man, gets f**cked up by some street punks, and nothing is done about it. .... After Janice bitched to Tony, I would have enjoyed it more if, like a real life mob family, they would have shown us Baccala and his guys getting even with those punks.
Ahhh, the good old days.

I would have thought that there would be some reprisal but Tony seemed to have taken that news (about Bobby getting ripped off) surprisingly well. The truth of the matter is the Mob ain't what it used to be. I had to laugh, though, at what Tony said about not even the cops go out in certain neighborhoods at night and then his look to Paulie as Paulie repeated the line later.

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And another point that bothers me :

Only a few weeks ago we see Vito and Johhny Cakes rolling around in the grass. We see Vito sitting on the side of the rocks, taking in the beauty of the scenery, the foilage, etc. Now a few episodes later we see snow on the ground!
Does anyone remember the Italian feast scenes in last weeks episode?

Were they wearing winter coats, or was it still supposed to be autumn?
Remember that Tony and Chris were talking about the smell of fireplaces and Chris said it smelled like Halloween. That was probably to have been late October. My guess is it was probably November in last night's episode.


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I really liked the scene right after John pleads guilty with Phil and the guys in that dark room. With the light hitting the guys faces in the back very telling of what John did, I think. La Cosa Nostra is an underground organization not to be talked about. By John admitting to being a part of the Mafia he exposes all the people he is associated with as being in the Mafia as well. I hope I explained this well enough for people to understand where i'm coming from.

Overall the family is doing very well. Chris just bought that new home, Bobby and the bitch are moving in the Johnny's place.

What does everyone think about the previews with Sil telling Tony to go for a ride when hes trying to get in the pork store? I have never seen that look on Sil's face or someone telling Tony to do something.

Question for all the guys or girls if thats what blows your hair back. Who in your mind is the best looking Mob wife? I think Carm is sexy but that may b/c we see her so much. I think Gabe is a nice piece of ass.

I liked this episode a lot! Not to much action but you get the feeling of culmination finally coming. I do want to see more Sil. One last thing anyone notice that Vito killed his cousin Jackie Jr. and that guys car he hit pretty much the same way? From behind one shot in the head in the snow. I don't know, interesting.

Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220024
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I really liked the scene right after John pleads guilty with Phil and the guys in that dark room. With the light hitting the guys faces in the back very telling of what John did, I think. La Cosa Nostra is an underground organization not to be talked about. By John admitting to being a part of the Mafia he exposes all the people he is associated with as being in the Mafia as well. I do want to see more Sil. One last thing anyone notice that Vito killed his cousin Jackie Jr. and that guys car he hit pretty much the same way? From behind one shot in the head in the snow. I don't know, interesting.
And that's a scene that I enjoyed. Phil all pissed off about Johnny doing what he did. That's the kind of Mob shit that we all looked for and got when we originally started watching this show. Good dialogue in that scene, the kind that this show should be about.

I too thought about the Jackie Jr. hit when Vito shot that guy in almost the same manner.


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220025
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So you know what i'm saying. I'm glad I wasn't sure if I explained what I was trying to say. Next two should be nice.

Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220026
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I always thought that bobby and Tony got some sort of bond after Pine Barrens. I didn't even notice that Tony still made fun of him. Maybe i didn't notice b/c i like both characters


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220027
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Another thing to add today is jamie-lynn discala brithday(may 15) and Mine was yesturday(may 14)


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220028
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I haven't noticed Tony making fun of Bobby recently either...this episode brought back a lot of tension from season 2 of Janice vs. Tony and Tony making fun of Bobby. The only real reason I noticed this was because I watched an episode from season two yesterday and all Tony does is make fun of Bobby's weight.


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220029
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I liked it when tony and bobby got along. But all jancie does is bring problems if she wasnt the boss' sister she would be dead by now IMHO


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220030
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Yeah I didn't really enoy this episode as much as others. There was nothing on Chris, he's one of my favorite characters. It was mostly centered around the Brokeback Mafia stuff. I dunno, its ironic that Vito was in a position to kinda step on Tony when he was out and put doubt in everybody's mind but now he is at the very bottom. The ONLY way i could see Vito getting out of this whole mess is if he comes back and says that somebody was slandering him and beats the piss outta some lower level guy. But what i find even crazier about the Sopranos right now is that it seems like nobody's even bothered to look up any leads on Vito. The part with Johnny Sac testifying was kinda crazy though.


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220031
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I love chris but i am getting mad of no Uncle Jun he is the best character and hes barley in this season but hes in the next episode but prolly only for a second


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220032
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I got the feeling tonight is going to have the Holy Shit moment of the season in it.
Be careful what you wish for.

When Vito said " I love you Johnny Cakes"

I said " Holy Shit"


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220033
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I was disappointed with the episode. Again, too much of the gay stuff.


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220034
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Why Tony would want to do something nice for Janice is beyond me. Watch the house get repossessed by the Government like the car Chris bought from Johnny’s wife. Janice isn’t the nicest person around prodding Ritchie in season 2 to get rid of her brother with Uncle Junior. I thought Bobby Baccala was made Capo in a previous season. Bobby Jr doesn’t even respect his dad wanting to go over to a friend’s house to watch a different football game all together. Janice is concerned about the baby getting hurt and could have cared less if Bobby Jr was hurt. He was also on the ride.


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220035
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Why Tony would want to do something nice for Janice is beyond me.
That was the whole point of that scene in this episode. One moment Tony is making fun of what happened to Baccala, and treating his sister like shit, and then the next moment his conscience gets the better of him. So he takes advantage of a situation with Johnny Sac and uses it to satisfy his sister and get her off his back.

How about what he did to his own wife? Pissed off because she did not have dinner on the table for him, so he tells Silvio to forget about seeing that building inspector on her behalf? What a Pr**k.

But getting back to Janice, the bottom line is that she is his family, his blood, and basically this whole season has been about family.


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220036
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This episode sucked.
I've been saying that a lot this season.

Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220037
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Quote:
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. I thought Bobby Baccala was made Capo in a previous season.
This is something I wondered about. I specificly remember a scene from Season 4 where Junior gave Bobby a promotion. Tony said he thought it was well deserved. Now Janice bitches to Tony about Bobby not being a captain?

This show is always on top of the details, but I dont understand this.


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220038
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He's not a captain I think that promotion was Bobby becoming a Lt. a step below Capo and above a button man.

Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220039
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I thought that Bobby Baccala was bumped up after Ritchie Aprile was whacked by Janice. Also on the Vito front it was funny when he was sawing the piece of wood believing it was lunch time when in fact it was 10am. The next scene with Vito's beau telling him that the water was running had me thinking of GF2 when Pentangeli killed himself in the bath tub.


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Tony is still in the comma dreaming all this and will die in the hospital in season 7. Write it down.

Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220041
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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220042
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Tony is still in the comma dreaming all this and will die in the hospital in season 7. Write it down.
I highly doubt it. It would be stupid.


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220043
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From the previews of the next episode it looks like Phil is gonna find out Vito's back how many think he'll find him and shot his fat gay ass? And now that Johnny Sack plead quilty is Phil gonna be Boss? (Since he was acting boss)


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220044
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Yes phil is still acting boss. i don't think vito gonna get killed unitl the end of this part of the season. phil is going to find out about vito but not kill him yet


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220045
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Mobster, that's an interesting scenario. Could happen.

Hova - you stole my storyline about the ducks. I posted a whole scene for the series' final episode with the ducks coming back.


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Re: Season 6 - Ep. 10: "Moe n' Joe" **SPOILERS** #220046
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What ever happened to the "confirmed Vito rape scene"?

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Is it me or is alot of this crap so make believe this season. Tony beating up his bodyguard 2 weeks after being in a comma.

Vito now being dumb to kill someone 200 feet off a road, leave the guys car right there and leave the scene with damage to his vehicle.

I like this show, but I wish more creativity would go into making in a little more real on some aspects.

I also still backup my dream scenrio. Just like the Kevin F angle. The whole family thing now exloding, he is dreaming all this.

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What ever happened to the "confirmed Vito rape scene"?
Well Vito is back in Jersey. Any thing is possible.


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[quote]Originally posted by Just Lou:
[b] What ever happened to the "confirmed Vito rape scene"?
Well Vito is back in Jersey. Any thing is possible. [/b][/quote]Unfortunately, you're right. Chase has already dedicated 2 episodes to Vito's homosexuality. Why not give him a 3rd, even though only 2 episodes remain this season. :rolleyes:

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wow...i had no idea this board was so homophobic.

Aaaanyway, TonyWillLive, Bobby is a Lieutenant?!?

Since when has their been a position between Soldier and Capo? Sorry mate, but i think you are wrong. I have NEVER heard of any level between Captain and Soldier. Bobby was made captain of Junior's crew in Series 4. Junior was the Boss (with Tony) and Bobby got a bump to run Junior's crew...with that Merf guy his soldier. This captain thing Janice mentioned is the writers hoping we wont remember Bobby's promotion i reckon. Poor continuity.

Someone else said that Bobby became captain of the Aprille crew. This is not true. GG was made Captain of the Aprile crew after Richie was shot by Janice. Ralphie succeeded GG when he died on the loo and then Vito after Tony killed Ralphie.

Another grey area for me is Chrissie's position. He shouted "am i not a captain?" when Eugene Pontecurvo questionned his authority over a decision to whack some guy in ep.1.

If Chris is a captain...of who's crew? He was a soldier in Paulie Gaulteiri's crew...so this would normally mean that he was the captain of the Gaultieri Crew...with Paulie taking a bump to Underboss. There has been no mention of this and as such we can't just assume all this has happened. Therefore, it is again, another grey area of the hierarchy of the Soprano family.


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Once again, I don't understand how some think this show isn't good. Last night's episode was a wonderful character insightful show. This season we're really getting to see the void of any real character that these guys have.

Tony leads the pack - he dresses down Sal, the gardener, for trying to get out of doing free work for Johnny Sac (while Sac is stuck in jail) yet he (Tony) has no qualms about taking advantage of that situation to beat Sac out of his house.

We later see how Tony is a victim of emotional blackmail (by Janice). She argues that the two of them have no real connection other than their shared DNA so Tony starts feeling guilty and does that "steal-the-house-from Johnny" thing (when he should have left better alone).

Tony is a selfish prick. He purposely backs out of helping Carmela because Carmela's dream (of building the spec house) is infringing on her time of serving him.

Vito did some soul searching and realized he missed the life too much (his "real" life). The sex aside, he misses the action and the easy money. He knows he's not cut out to be a "normal" person with a "normal" job. It'll be interesting to see how his return to Jersey fares for him (although I expect that won't be known until the final show of the season).

Great writing. Great insight. Great acting. I think that adds up to a great show.
SC i completely agree with you about this episode. Your posts are always the best to read. They are well thought out and balanced. I often find myself quite frustrated with how narrow minded some people who write on here can be.


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