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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219496
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Highlight of the night, and you missed it.

The headline in the paper of the section carm removed

Don "Squirel eone" with that picture of Junior. Classic

Also I could'nt get over Vito in that get up at the bar. That hat LOL. It seemed like he did somewthing wrong to Chase and he purposely wrote that in to get back at him.

Meadow and Finn-No Fire-No Wedding.

Good Episode


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219497
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I think Chris is going to report the Arabs to agent Harris, and something bad is going to happen. Either the Feds are going to talk Chris into giving up more than just the Arabs, or Tony is going to find out he talked to Harris and get the wrong idea.

Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219498
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I do not think Meadow and Finn will get married.

Also, I think Tony's fight at the end was due to the way Phil reacted about Johnny Sack. He wanted to make sure his guys didnt act that way about him.. trying reinstate his leadership and authority (not that Paulie will get "it", he has been drawing further away the last few seasons).
I also personally think Paulie will get whacked before Vito does.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219499
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Paulie has always been a bit of an odd ball, but sometimes its hard to believe that he's drifted so far from his former self in the last three seaons. season one through till the second last episode of season three had him being extremely loyal.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219500
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I know, he started changing when he got back from his stint in the Ohio prison. He felt slighted while he was in, felt he wasnt getting the proper respect due.

I maybe wrong (and probably am) but I see a major war between NJ and NY this season... thru this I see most of the major players getting taken out (Paulie, Sil, Tony, Phil, Vito, Johnny Sack, etc..) and the crew being run for the future by AJ and possibly Chris (if he survives that is)


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219501
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AJ? Never....i think Meadow has a much stronger personality then AJ, and that should tell you about whether or not Aj can run the business. Tony's not getting taken out...and i don't know about this NY vs. NJ thing. We've been led to believe that's going to happen for a few seasons now. Besides ever since season four they've been making remarks on the show about how NJ is just a "glorified crew."


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219502
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Vito is a moron... If he was hiding that he was gay, why would he go to a club that was being profitied by the MOB?

I will make a wacky projection.. Vito goes to the FBI and turns into a snitch.

Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219503
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I think that's just the reason they will make it happen this season. Because they have hinted at it and not paid it off, everyone is beginning to dismiss it and therefore I think they will pull it out.

I honestly never give Meadow much thought about taking over or being involved in the "family", but I can see it when I do think about it.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219504
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Antoni, I think you are right about Tony. He picked a fight to prove to himself and others that he still could get it on because of Johnny Sack crying and Phil's reaction to it. He looked at the arms et al to decide who he would take on. His bodyguard didn't fight back because you don't punch out a family boss if you want to live. Didn't you hear Sil telling him don't do it?

I'm wondering if we are missing the target. Could it be that a member of Tony's blood family is a target. You have the wedding of Sack's daughter, Tony talking to Meadow about getting married, and Tony smiling over at Meadow at the wedding. I wonder if this is a setup for her kidnapping or accidental shooting ala GFIII. When Carmel walked to the end of the driveway to get the paper, a hit or kidnapping was the first thing that entered my mind.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219505
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Interesting point to contemplate olivant. Let me modify it a bit.. whaddya think of AJ being the victim vice Meadow? Would help bring about the war and cement Meadow in the family.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219506
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Could be any one of them actually. What if Tony marries Meadow off to the son of another family instead of to Finn?

Do you remember that previews scene which shows AJ desperately running to a door to leave? It looks like it's some type of office like a police station or maybe he's trying to escape a hit.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219507
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the body guard actually did attempt to fight back by getting up and lunging at tony like a football player, arent those grounds for getting murdered?


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219508
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goodfella i do not see the bodyguard returning to the show ever again. he is sleeping with the fishes.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219509
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In the season preview there was a seen with AJ in what seemed to be a hospital of some sorts with wired glass. I noticed the place Uncle Junior was in had the exact makeup of that place AJ is shown in. Watch both if you can, I think if you have OnDemand you can. Pay attention in the scene with AJ its very quick but try and look for a mantle in the right hand corner you can see one very similar in the scene I mentioned with Uncle Junior. -Take it easy

Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219510
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goodfella i do not see the bodyguard returning to the show ever again. he is sleeping with the fishes.
No way they killed him.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219511
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Well, whattaya know! JRCX finally joins up after what, 5 years of invites? :p Welcome aboard.
As Groucho Marx once said "i dont want to be a member of any club that would have me as one of its members". So once you stopped asking i figure i would check it out... besides i wanted to see if any one thinks the sopranos is as disappointing this season thus far as i do... the near-death episode a couple of weeks ago was brilliant, unfortunately that cannot carry the whole season...

I did catch the newspaper headline, i just thought the look on tony's face was more hysterical when AJ's girlfriend said she does not eat seafood because of toxins as she takes a drag from a cigarette...


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219512
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I did catch the newspaper headline, i just thought the look on tony's face was more hysterical when AJ's girlfriend said she does not eat seafood because of toxins as she takes a drag from a cigarette...
Ah, I thought that had something to do with the sushi.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219513
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You are right, they would not kill that young musclehead, no reason to... he just was to be made an example of... and killing is a liability... a dangerous one... just like tony told him to chill when those guys cut him off on the road, same way tony will not go out of his way to draw any more attention t him than what he has... they kill when they absolutely have to, and killing for no reason just brings unwanted attention from the law/police... if there is not money involved, there is no sense to it...


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219514
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I doubt they will kill T's new or should I say ex bodyguard. Look at George who used to work at the Bing, the guy T used to take his frustrations out on. I believe he is still alive but working someplace else.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219515
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Originally posted by Daigo Mick Friend:
I could'nt get over Vito in that get up at the bar. That hat LOL. It seemed like he did somewthing wrong to Chase and he purposely wrote that in to get back at him.

Actually Mick, from what I understand it was Joe Gannascoli's suggestion to Chase to continue on with the Gay storyline. It was a way for Gannascoli to assure himself a bigger role on the show this season.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219516
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[quote]Originally posted by Daigo Mick Friend:
[b] I could'nt get over Vito in that get up at the bar. That hat LOL. It seemed like he did somewthing wrong to Chase and he purposely wrote that in to get back at him.

Actually Mick, from what I understand it was Joe Gannascoli's suggestion to Chase to continue on with the Gay storyline. It was a way for Gannascoli to assure himself a bigger role on the show this season.

Don Cardi [/b][/quote]I am laughing just thinking about it. I guess an actor will do anything to increase a role or stay around. He looked like he belonged in "The Fat Village People:. If Vito killed himself that will be a letdown.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219517
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BEST line of the show
"my uncle tried to kill me agian"

how many of you can say that

Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219518
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Hey, I was just speculating on the reoccurence of the song "The Three Bells" by the Browns. This song is divided up into three parts, each part telling the story of Jimmy Brown.

In the first part they sing about how when Jimmy was born the chapel bells were ringing in celebration. The second part talks about how the church bells were ringing when Jimmy got married. Finally, in the third part, they sing about how a single bell was rung when Jimmy Brown died.

So in last week's episode, they played the first part of the song when Jason Barone was rowing his boat, to probably symbolize his youth. They played the second part in this week's episode when Vito went in hiding in the motel, possibly to make some sort of sly reference to his desire or love for men. I think in next week's episode they are going to play the third part of the song right before someone is killed, possibly Rusty or somebody else.

Vito we know won't be killed in next week's episode because he still has to be wowed by an act of heroism a few episodes later.


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Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219519
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Hey now thats something, I had no idea. What do you think about this:

In the season preview there was a seen with AJ in what seemed to be a hospital of some sorts with wired glass. I noticed the place Uncle Junior was in had the exact makeup of that place AJ is shown in. Watch both if you can, I think if you have OnDemand you can. Pay attention in the scene with AJ its very quick but try and look for a mantle in the right hand corner you can see one very similar in the scene I mentioned with Uncle Junior. -Take it easy

Re: Season 6, EP 5: "Mr. and Mrs. Sacramoni Request" **SPOILERS** #219520
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Ok, by chance i just caught the end of the last sopranos, where tony beats his driver... you hear someone say "my arm", it could be the young driver he beat, or it could be tony, but i dont think it was tony, but he was also clutching his arm when he goes into the bathroom and limps away... i think it has some sort of significance of tony checking out everyone's arms, but tony had his right arm in a lock, i wonder if it was the kid yelling "my arm" because he was deep down just a pretty boy and worried about all his hard work on his arms/body being ruined by having it brokend and taking time to heal/rebuild, etc... maybe i am reading into this too closely, but there is an underlying theme here and i wonder if anyone else picked up on it...


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maybe, did you see what i noticed? you don't think thats significant?

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Great episode as always, but I find it a little questionable that Tony was able to beat up his bodyguard like that. The man was a lot bigger and stronger than he was, but then again he looked like he may have been more into grooming himself and putting on a show. Tony on the other hand has the experience and the fighting ability from the mean streets.
Muscle definition doesn't neccessarily equate with stronger. The strongest men in the world are bulky and "fat," unlike the kind of Olympic musclemen you see all the time. Tony's like a bull. And yeah, actual experience has a lot to do with it, too. Look at Bruce Lee-- he was probably one of the strongets men in the world in his day and he was like 5'7" and wiry.

Also, the little fight had nothing much to do with strength, anyway, but fortitude and reflexes.

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good episode.

will re-watch it later and post some musings i will innevitably have.

till then gentlemen...adeiu.


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Some of the guys yelled "Don't" at the bodyguard when he started to attack Tony. You don't hit a boss. But he didn't listen and instead went after him. Tony luckily caught up his arm and hit a couple of times in the stomach. Thus, he proves he's no Johnny Sack on a crying jag.


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Jimmy Brown by the The Bells - that was one of my mother's favorite songs. I so love the choice of music. They combine oldies and not so oldies. Just another fantastic feature of a fantastic show.


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