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Not Really the Mafia?
#217908
05/14/05 02:19 PM
05/14/05 02:19 PM
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Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 319 Providence, RI
Moscarelli
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Okay, we all know what the Sopranos is about. A high ranking mafioso who deals with the pressures from both of his families. However, ever since watching Commendatore in Season 2, I questioned if the DiMeo Familiy was even Cosa Nostra.
Let me explain. Tony is Neapolitan, right? Okay, so, so was his father. Now, his father was made, but he wasn't at all Sicilian. Now, at the time his father was working for the Dimeo Family, he would never be made considering he was of Northern Italian descent.
Another thing, the DiMeo Family, as shown in Season 2, works directly with the Neapolitan Mafia, or Camorra. And I believe that it is an breach of Commission rules to ever do so.
So, I have questioned on several occasions whether the DiMeo Family was really an American form of the Camorra, or whether it was just an inaccuracy on David Chase's part.
Does anyone know for sure, or at least have any insight into this?
"The toe you stepped on yesterday may be attached to the ass you have to kiss today." -Former Mayor of Providence, RI, Vincent "Buddy" Cianci
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Re: Not Really the Mafia?
#217909
05/14/05 03:10 PM
05/14/05 03:10 PM
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Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 19,520 AZ
Turnbull
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You seem to be under the impression that someone had to be Sicilian to be made in the US Mafia. That was true in the early years of the 20th century, but gave way under pressure during Prohibition. The Mob needed bodies, and membership opened up to men who weren't necessarily Sicilians--they just had to be Italian on both sides.. Joe Valachi was Neapolitan. So was Vito Genovese. Frank Costello was Calabrian. John Gotti was Neapolitan. None of them were from the North of Italy. Tony's unit is a Mafia family--he formally (and finally!)inducted Christopher a couple of seasons ago. As has been posted elsewhere, the Commission doesn't have many "rules," and most of them are unenforceable anyway because the Commission seldom meets, and Mafia families have nothing in common except mutual distrust. Mafia families are dedicated to one proposition: greed. They'll do business with any individuals and organizations that can help make money--the Camorra, the Russian Mafia, the Golden Triangle opium traders in Myannamar and Thailand, terrorist arms dealers, etc.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Not Really the Mafia?
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06/06/05 01:15 PM
06/06/05 01:15 PM
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Joined: May 2005
Posts: 170 North East England
Joolsie Cappucetti
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Could somebody help me out here with aa few more Mafia guidelines? So now you can be made if you're half italian blood - do you have to be catholic? what about people whose mother is full italian but their father isn't, so they don't have the italian surname? Is it more difficult to be made if you're not blood related to a Family? Has any Family ever made a non-italian? Or a woman? If anyone knows anything about any of that, please give me your thoughts!
Senator, we are both part of the same hypocrisy
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Re: Not Really the Mafia?
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06/15/05 07:38 PM
06/15/05 07:38 PM
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Turnbull
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According to Joe Pistone, in his book, "The Way of the Wiseguy," the rule is that your father has to be Italian for you to be considered Italian, and thus be qualified to be made. And Olivant is right: Victoria Gotti's father was Jewish, mother Italian. Under Jewish religious law, all Jewishness descends from the mother, so Victoria wasn't considered Jewish.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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