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murders of carlo and fredo #209162
02/13/05 01:31 PM
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AlNeri Offline OP
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what did michael tell his family about how carlo and fredo died? fredo drowned? with a bullet in his hand? how would michael explain that to his family?

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Fredo's death was a terrible boating accident, or something like that. I don't know about Carlo...he didn't seem to hide his involvement in that one too well.


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I believe that because the war was going on and papers were printing gossips about all his murders, he might pretty well tell them that Carlo died in this war with Barzini, bravely defending his family.
As to Fredo, nobody knew he had any hole in his head, because his body was not found. Michael didn't give orders to search it, and he remained peacefully at the bottom. It was such a stupid accident - to fall out of boat! But then, poor Fredo was always stupid...


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just realized that i postet this in the wrong forum! please move this!

Re: murders of carlo and fredo #209166
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This is easy. Carlo Rizzi died the same day as all the other Corleone enemies died, but law enforcement either did not or could not bring anyone "to justice." Everyone suspected that Michael killed Carlo, even Connie, remember she came running into the house screaming "Read the papers read the papers!!!" This is what prompted Kay to ask Michael whether or not he had killed Carlo and of course he told her no.

As for Fredo, it was a drowning accident pure and simple. They just never found the body at the bottom of Lake Tahoe. In GFIII after Michael tells Connie that he has confessed his sins, Connie makes a comment about "poor Fredo" and his "drowning like that." This is her way of saying that she forgives Michael for killing his brother.


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I don't understand how Constanza could believe such a blatant lie. If Frederico actually did drown, why didn't Albert Neri make an attempt to save his life? Did he simply continue to search for fish?

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Quote:
Originally posted by Peter_Clemenza:
I don't understand how Constanza could believe such a blatant lie. If Frederico actually did drown, why didn't Albert Neri make an attempt to save his life? Did he simply continue to search for fish?
Al Neri "wasn't there"


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Re: murders of carlo and fredo #209169
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Quote:
Originally posted by DonMichaelCorleone:
[quote]Originally posted by Peter_Clemenza:
[b] I don't understand how Constanza could believe such a blatant lie. If Frederico actually did drown, why didn't Albert Neri make an attempt to save his life? Did he simply continue to search for fish?
Al Neri "wasn't there" [/b][/quote]When connie comes to pick up anthony from the boat, AlNeri and Fredo were both present in the boat and she saw it. So there was no question of telling Connie that Neri "wasn't there". She knew it. I also agree with Dontomasso that it was a profound moment when connie forgives michael in GF3, saying that drowning of Fredo was a "terrible accident".

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I thought that was Kay at the end, my mistake


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Re: murders of carlo and fredo #209171
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Quote:
Originally posted by Peter_Clemenza:
I don't understand how Constanza could believe such a blatant lie. If Frederico actually did drown, why didn't Albert Neri make an attempt to save his life? Did he simply continue to search for fish?
Casuse Neri don't sleep with no fishes.


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: murders of carlo and fredo #209172
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Fredos body was never found as said in the GFR


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