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Garcia as the Don. #207913
07/07/03 05:40 AM
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In my opinion, a GF IV could only happen if it had Garcia as the Don of the Corleone Family long after Michael's death (last time I saw, Garcia has aged somewhat and would be perfect now) while at the same time, there should be flashbacks to the time bewteen Mary's death and Michael's (Pacino is now looking old enough to be younger than when he died, but older enough as to not have to wear makeup). A flashback to Vito building his empire is a fantastic storyline, but due to practicality it would be a disaster, I think.

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Re: Garcia as the Don. #207914
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Good ideas there Capo I'm almost sure they would cast Garcia as the Don again to keep the continuity going. Pacino would be ideal as he is now, to play himself as he was then, between the opera scenes and his death. It would be great to see what happened to Michael after GF3. I just want more Pacino

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I think most of us are agreed that a Garcia as Don, with flashbacks modeled after what they did in GF II.

Re: Garcia as the Don. #207916
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The thing is is that you would have to put the movie in the future. Mike Died in 1997 so we are in 2003. Seems that you can't go to far if you wana keep the scicilian feel.


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Re: Garcia as the Don. #207917
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b I agree with "Family Honor"! More Pacino! I have a question! If Kay said she didnt love Michael in the second one why does she say she has always been in love with him in the third one?


..Only dont tell me your innocent because it insults my intelligence and it makes me very angry...
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"..it was a murder but not a crime"
Re: Garcia as the Don. #207918
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Quote:
Originally posted by lil_mafioso:
If Kay said she didnt love Michael in the second one why does she say she has always been in love with him in the third one?
Because she is a woman. :p ; she doesn't know what she wants.

Re: Garcia as the Don. #207919
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damn Straigt my boy.


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- Greed

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Re: Garcia as the Don. #207920
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Hey! Ihave another question! It doesnt have anything to do with Godfather IV, but why does Frank Pentalgia lie after he sees his brother? Sorry Im going off on anotha subject!


..Only dont tell me your innocent because it insults my intelligence and it makes me very angry...
-Michael Corleone
"..it was a murder but not a crime"
Re: Garcia as the Don. #207921
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Hes afrid to to tell his brother his sin.


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GOLD - GOLD - GOLD - GOLD. Bright and Yellow, Hard and Cold, Molten, Graven, Hammered, Rolled, Hard to Get and Light to Hold; Stolen, Borrowed, Squandered - Doled.
- Greed

Nothing Is Written
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Re: Garcia as the Don. #207922
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Is anyone watching The Godfather Part II on HBO? Sooooo Good! AL PACINO! ... !! He was such agood actor then and he still is today!.....Ok Ill stop now!


..Only dont tell me your innocent because it insults my intelligence and it makes me very angry...
-Michael Corleone
"..it was a murder but not a crime"
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He just hasn't goten origional roles since Heat


Madness! Madness!
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The Bridge On The River Kwai

GOLD - GOLD - GOLD - GOLD. Bright and Yellow, Hard and Cold, Molten, Graven, Hammered, Rolled, Hard to Get and Light to Hold; Stolen, Borrowed, Squandered - Doled.
- Greed

Nothing Is Written
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Re: Garcia as the Don. #207924
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WHAT?! I just saw him in "Insomnia" and thought he did great! "The Recruit was Ok but Insomnia kept me riveted.


..Only dont tell me your innocent because it insults my intelligence and it makes me very angry...
-Michael Corleone
"..it was a murder but not a crime"
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Those are my 2 cents. Right now, all he playes is jaded Officers.


Madness! Madness!
- Major Clipton
The Bridge On The River Kwai

GOLD - GOLD - GOLD - GOLD. Bright and Yellow, Hard and Cold, Molten, Graven, Hammered, Rolled, Hard to Get and Light to Hold; Stolen, Borrowed, Squandered - Doled.
- Greed

Nothing Is Written
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Re: Garcia as the Don. #207926
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Ok your right! :p BUt I still think hes the best! Ew I hear hes in "Gigli"! :rolleyes: Some mob movie!(in a sarcastic tone)


..Only dont tell me your innocent because it insults my intelligence and it makes me very angry...
-Michael Corleone
"..it was a murder but not a crime"
Re: Garcia as the Don. #207927
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hey, 1st Post!

Pacino was terrible in "people I know", it probably wasnt pacino but the storyline was terrible....I dont even think there was a story to that movie

Yeh I hope they do make another GF, definately lots of Pacino!

Re: Garcia as the Don. #207928
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mike Sulivan:
The thing is is that you would have to put the movie in the future. Mike Died in 1997 so we are in 2003. Seems that you can't go to far if you wana keep the scicilian feel.
They could work round this by setting the movie from 1980 (when Mary died and Michael supposedly retires) to Mikes death in 1997. We could see the rise of Vincent as Don and how he handles stuff and Mikes hand in it, if any. Could make for a good story...just as long as we dont lose Pacino

FH

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Yup! Lots and Lots of Pacino! I'm a sucker for him! Hes the major pillar of the film! I just saw "Scarecrow"! Great movie...great...


..Only dont tell me your innocent because it insults my intelligence and it makes me very angry...
-Michael Corleone
"..it was a murder but not a crime"
Re: Garcia as the Don. #207930
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But thats not the style of the epic like "Godfather" I know and love. It isn't a smart idea. In fact, I belive the Ending of GF III was in fact, the end of the saga. The only way GF IV could be done is the way Puzo wanted it. A prequel in Prohibition Era New York. Anything other than that is close to sinful.


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Re: Garcia as the Don. #207931
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the more & more I read this BB i begin to realise the idea of GF IV is not good. The Story really did revolve around Micheal & making anyone else the centere of attention would just really ruin the series because as I saw what someone else said; the Godfather was about Micheal.

What are those other GF movies we see on TV btw? Telemovies I think they are, i remember seeing Kirsty Alley in it....

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The Godfather Saga? 1978 production. It got GF I and GFII and put both stories in cronological order.


Madness! Madness!
- Major Clipton
The Bridge On The River Kwai

GOLD - GOLD - GOLD - GOLD. Bright and Yellow, Hard and Cold, Molten, Graven, Hammered, Rolled, Hard to Get and Light to Hold; Stolen, Borrowed, Squandered - Doled.
- Greed

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Re: Garcia as the Don. #207933
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I know that I am in the minority but unlike Caan, I do not feel Andy Garcia has a strong encough presence to carry the movie, or any movie. He does have movie star looks but he is just a feature player. I don't like to see actor replacements in sequels, but I will welcome this one. I still believe that the role should go to Nick Cage. This is the same as replacing that stiff dreadful whats-his-face 007 with Pierce Brosman.
Andy is not working for me.


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Part of the greatness of this trilogy is that no characters are replaced with differenct actors/actresses (unless it is a flash back like young vito or young clemenza). Duvall wouldn't do GFIII so a new character was created even though it would have been easier just to cast a new person


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I'd like to see CDLCN's idea come to life. And yes, they should keep Garcia for continuities sake.



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I'm with Mike Sullivan. I would much prefer a prequel than a sequel. There would be so much they could cover showing the young Corleones and their climb to the top of the crime world.

I'm also with Deathkiss as far as Andy Garcia too. Don't know if he'd be the best choice, but I think Nicholas Cage would be better for the role. I definitely will see any GFIV with or without AG, but he certainly is not my choice. I'd rather see Leo as a young Sonny than AG as the next Don. But let's face it, all indications are that AG will be in it. So we'll hope for the best.

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Frank Pentangeli, lies because he has 2 children in Sicily, betraying a moral code that had lasted for more then an eon in Sicily would bring shame upon his family, and his older brother would disown his offspring.

Arturo Garcia still has not lost his Hispanic accent to this day after 44 years of living in this wonderful country, no Italian-American born in New York has ever had a Hispanic accent, they should continue to have him portray absurdly unbelievable Alpine males.

A wolf could pretentiously act as a tiger, but he is still a wolf, and it is not believable, even if he might look like a tiger.

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Quote:
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I'm with Mike Sullivan. I would much prefer a prequel than a sequel. There would be so much they could cover showing the young Corleones and their climb to the top of the crime world.

TIS
The problem, TIS, is that with a prequel you need good actors to fulfill the role of characters we've already learned to adore. And let's face, the amount of actors who could pull it off today is limited to say the least. In all honesty, making a prequel IMO risks the whole reputation of the Trilogy.

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