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Re: Michael/Fredo
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03/06/05 09:53 PM
03/06/05 09:53 PM
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belle
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If you think about it everything comes down to trust. In the last chapter of the book when Tom is at Kay's parents house, Kay asks why Michael could not forgive and forget Carlo. Tom answers her by saying that treachery and betrayal cannot be forgiven and to let the betrayer go on living would be to forever endanger the family. Because the betrayer would never be able to forgive his or herself then they would always be dangerous and therefore the only way is to eliminate them altogether. And as far as Michael watching I believe he did this for two reasons, first to make sure it was done, second because he knew what he was doing was horrible and he wanted to punish himself by watching the act.
Winegardner sleeps with the fishes.
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Re: Michael/Fredo
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03/07/05 09:36 AM
03/07/05 09:36 AM
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Debz
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Underboss
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Micheal is pretty messed up about killing Fredo in Part III though, because when he takes his diabetic fit he yells "Fredo!" Its like its eating him up inside...
[Debz]
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Re: Michael/Fredo
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03/07/05 12:41 PM
03/07/05 12:41 PM
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Posts: 11,468 With Geary in Fredo's Brothel
dontomasso
Consigliere to the Stars
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Consigliere to the Stars
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With Geary in Fredo's Brothel
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Fredo allowed for Hyman Roth's people to get close enough for then to try a hit. After Michael gets proof of the betrayal, he still offers Fredo a way out of Cuba, which Fredo refuses. The first thing Michael asks Tom when he gets back to Vegas is where is Fredo, and then Michael tells Tom to get word to him to come back to the family, and that he understands Fredo was misled. It is not until Mike and Tom discover that Pentangeli is still alive that Mike confronts Fredo in the famous "I was passed over," scene. It is in that scene where Fredo tells Mike that he has additional information that the Senate lawyer is on Roth's payroll. This means Fredo had to have known Pentangeli was alive, and despite all he was still operating behind Michael's back. It is then that Michael tells Fredo that he is not a brother, not a friend, that he is banished form the casinos, and that when he comes to visit their mother he needs to know a day in advance. It is that moment when he decides to kill him, and it is then that he gives Neri the order "I don't want anything to ahppen to him while his mother is still alive." Of course after mama Corleone dies, Connie promises Michael that she will stay close to him if he will only forgive Fredo, which he pretends to do. He thus allows Fredo back into the estate, keeping in mind that you keep your friends close but your enemies closer.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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