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Re: Origin of the word "Mafia"?
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03/17/05 05:58 AM
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Originally posted by Remember Vito Andolini:
Where does it come from? this is an interesting question, especially for me since I've a passion for etymologies!  Apparently the word mafia has different possible origins, none of which seems to be more convincing than the others, though. Take a look at this, it may give you an idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia#Etymology
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Re: Origin of the word "Mafia"?
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03/19/05 12:00 AM
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I have read the word originated from a kidnapping in sicily in the 1800's. When a womens son was kidnapped by a local gang she ran out onto the streets screaming "La Mafia!" Which was a form of the italian word for "mischief"... cant remember were this is from
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Re: Origin of the word "Mafia"?
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03/19/05 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by Sonny Forelli:
I have read the word originated from a kidnapping in sicily in the 1800's. When a womens son was kidnapped by a local gang she ran out onto the streets screaming "La Mafia!" Which was a form of the italian word for "mischief"... cant remember were this is from Maybe it's a version of the story from the site provided by Lavinia? Former U.S. mob don Joseph Bonanno provided an origin that was a confused reference to the Sicilian Vespers, a patriotic uprising in Sicily against the French in 1282. Bonnano claimed that French soldiers had violated a Sicilan girl. The girl's distraught mother ran through the streets of Palermo crying "ma fia" ("my daughter"), causing the young men of Palermo to kill the French in response.
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Re: Origin of the word "Mafia"?
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03/19/05 02:40 PM
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In Sicilian the word mafia first means something like cool, somebody with aanziem(dont know the English word), a respected man.
A mafioso is someone who doesnt go to the police but take care himself of his problems.
In 1863 the Opera I Mafiusi di la Viciari (Viciari is a prison) give it a criminal meaning (Look at the post of MMFloors).
And of course there are a lot of other theories. Very much!!
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Re: Origin of the word "Mafia"?
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03/19/05 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by M.M. Floors:
I think I read about 10-15 theories about it's origin! me, around 30-50:)..Maybe thats to much but anyway very very much. If you consider every single Arabic word as 1 theory....Because there are a lot of theorys that the word is from Arabien word(s)
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Re: Origin of the word "Mafia"?
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04/11/05 10:13 PM
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I have only heard those of which Floors stated except for the Arabic cave thing. I always, for some reason accepted the "Ma Fia!" theory when the women shouted for her daughter.
I guess its just one of those things that is impossible to find out...
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Re: Origin of the word "Mafia"?
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04/12/05 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by M.M. Floors:
That version can't hardly be true, because at the time it happened the dialect of Sicilians was different and then you wouldn't never get something in the direction of Ma Fia.... I also dont believe in that version but Joseph Bonanno did mention this one as THE one in his autobiography...
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Re: Origin of the word "Mafia"?
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04/12/05 03:43 PM
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It's Sicilian. La Cosa Nostra means the mafia in Sicilian... so actually it may be italian.
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Re: Origin of the word "Mafia"?
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04/13/05 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by M.M. Floors:
Cosa Nostra means "Our Thing"/"This thing of Ours". And Cosa Nostra isn't Sicilian Mafia, two different things. La Cosa Nostra is the Sicilian Mafia. ---__---
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Re: Origin of the word "Mafia"?
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05/06/05 10:19 AM
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So Cosa Nostra is the NY Mafia The Sicilian Mafia is the Sicilian Mafia (I detect logic And what is the name of the most important Mafia of Italia (which is the Mafia of Napoli)??
See, we can act as smart as we want, but at the end of the day, we still follow a guy who fucks himself with kebab skewers.
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