get this: supposily the soon to be Dutch princess (our Queen's daughter-in-law-to-be) "Mabel" had a love affair with Klaas Bruinsma, the Dutch John Gotti. It has been a major affair for over two weeks.


I was trying to make an equation to American gangsters. Roy Demeo with Sarah Ferguson or something...

Chelsea Clinton vs John Gotti


next spring there will be a biopic about Bruinsma (who was assasinated in 1991) but my guess is princess Mabel will be left out

Pherdy,

How long ago was this affair? The public is just finding out now? I don't know the names you metioned and nothing about Dutch Royalty, but I think I have a pretty good idea what the public reaction and how "scandalous" it must seem the the Royalty there. Is Bruinsma in jail for a crime or is he still around?


TIS

TIS, here are the questions to your answers:


the girl has been the prince's fiance for a couple of months. Since then "THEY" started asking around (the intelligence, the tabloids, etc.). She has not been a famous person in Holland until a year, so it's logical you wouldn't have heard from her. Her future husband is the second of three boys to our Queen, so is the second 'heir to the throne'. But that does not matter.

Klaas Bruinsma was assasinated in 1991. They knew each other (which she admitted) in the late '80's.

So no, Bruinsma is not in jail, and not around

People are a bit shocked, but who cares, she must have been 18 or 19 back then. And no, it did not happen recently, so it's not a big a scandal as you might think.

But the connection is definitely surprising and "spectacular", and the tv shows and magazines love it. When it comes to our Royal Family, Holland is very old fashioned.

When a Royal prince want to marry, the government has to give permission. WHen the future princess has 'mob-ties', it's possible the government won't give it. When the couple does get married then, he gives up the right to the throne if his elder brother ever passes away. It's like constitution, old fashioned, royal tradition crap.

So far she denies a 'love affair', but all clues are against her. Bruinsma former bodyguard have been speeking to the media and opposes all statements she have made yet.

It might be nothing, a childish 'fling', but the media are making a big thing about it.

and altough the US has a huge mob-history (including rumoured celebrities with mob ties), it's quite new for HOlland

well, as we say in Holland, the "bullet is finally through the church" (I admit this literal translation of a Dutch saying makes NO sense at all )

our Queen's second son Johan Friso and his fiance Mabel have decided to marry without permission of the government, thus distancing himself from the royal throne (his younger brother now 'moves up' a place). It seems there were too many witnesses to confirm Mabel's relationship with former drug lord Bruinsma, and the couple have explained that in fact she had an intense relationship with him (I'll bet it was a genuine love affair but she still denies that), some 13 years ago...

for a tolerant and modern country, the Dutch government is now going medieval on our asses letting all of this happen.

good for Johan and Mabel though, he did not want to be a heir to the throne anyway


the Dutch royal family is called 'the Oranges' by the way

the futre princess your talking about is the Aussie one right?

nope, I believe there's a Danish prince engaged with a girl from Australia