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Lufthansa #194097
04/07/02 01:51 PM
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Ricardo Offline OP
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According to Goodfellas and http://www.crimelibrary.com i've gather THIS information.

Henry Hill=Henry Hill
Jimmy Burke=Jimmy Conway
Paul Cicero=Paul Vario
Tommy DeSimone=Tomy DeVito
Lenny Cicero=Tommy DeVito
Robert mcMahon=Frenchy
Joe Manri=Joe Buddha
Angelo Sepe=Frankie Carbone
Parnell Edwards=Stax Edwards
Marty Krugman=Maurie
Louis Werner=Johnny Roastbeef
Frank Burke=?
Paolo LiCastri=?
??=Billy Batts
Anthony Rodriguez=?
Vinnie Asaro=?
Foxy=Spider?
John Gotti/Sam Gravano=Two guys who whack Tommy?
Peter Gruenwald=?
Theresa Ferrara=?
Louis Cafora=Johnny Roastbeef
Richard Eaton=Frankie Carbone
Thomas Monteleone=?
Edward McDonald=?

Re: Lufthansa #194098
04/07/02 02:03 PM
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I question the last 3/4 of that list, Ricardo.


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Re: Lufthansa #194099
04/07/02 02:13 PM
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yes Ricardo, Jimmy "The Gent" Burke was the guy Robert De Niro played in the movie "GoodFellas". he got his nickname because he used to take the drivers license to get the information about the guy and put a few dollars for the guy not to talk. people loved him because of this, and the cops love him because he made them his partners. Jimmy was the kind of guy who used to cheer for the bad guy in the movie. He named his two sons Frank James and Jessie James . . .
"all you need is peanuts."- Jimmy "The Gent" Burke

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Re: Lufthansa #194100
04/07/02 02:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Anthony Spilotro:
I question the last 3/4 of that list, Ricardo.
me too lol.

I'm SURE of:
Henry Hill=Henry Hill
Jimmy Burke=Jimmy Conway
Paul Cicero=Paul Vario
Tommy DeSimone=Tomy DeVito
Lenny Cicero=Tommy DeVito
Robert McMahon=Frenchy
Joe Manri=Joe Buddha
Angelo Sepe=Frankie Carbone
Parnell Edwards=Stax Edwards
Marty Krugman=Maurie

The rest is iffy:
Louis Werner=Johnny Roastbeef

Frank Burke=? Jimmy's son murdered in 1987. He was NOT portrayed in the movie.

Paolo LiCastri=? Boanno/Gambino/Colombo Lt. was gunman form Lufthansa, murdered in early 80's.

??=Billy Batts
Anthony Rodriguez=?One of the gumen at Lufthnasa

Vinnie Asaro=? I rememebr Goodfellas refering to Vinnie, bu we never saw him.

Foxy=Spider? DeSimonencommited three murders one was prior to 1970, 2 wasd Bill Batts, and 3 was Spider. The Gambinos whacked Tommy becasue htye thought he was respnisble for deaths ofBatts and Foxy. Foxy must be Spider.?

John Gotti/Sam Gravano=Two guys who whack Tommy? They WERE Gambinos from the Gotti crew.

Peter Gruenwald=?

Theresa Ferrara=? Paulie's crack whore girlfriend who as chopped up, and washed up on shore.

Louis Cafora=Johnny Roastbeef-Bought Brand new Van (Coup) him and his wife 'Disappeared".

Richard Eaton=Frankie Carbone-Dead in Meat truck

Thomas Monteleone=?Canadian gangster murdered in early 80's. Friend of Eaton.

Edward McDonald=?Lawyer, Nevermind. NOT in the movie.

Re: Lufthansa #194101
04/07/02 02:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ricardo:
According to Goodfellas and http://www.crimelibrary.com i've gather THIS information.

??=Billy Batts

John Gotti/Sam Gravano=Two guys who whack Tommy?
as far back as i can remember . . Billy Batts is Billy Batts in the movie and the Gotti Crew whack Tommy. . .

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Re: Lufthansa #194102
04/07/02 02:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by goodfellaoggie:
[quote]Originally posted by Ricardo:
[b]According to Goodfellas and http://www.crimelibrary.com i've gather THIS information.

??=Billy Batts

John Gotti/Sam Gravano=Two guys who whack Tommy?
as far back as i can remember . . Billy Batts is Billy Batts in the movie and the Gotti Crew whack Tommy. . .

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I command this family right or wrong . . . it was not what I wanted![/b][/quote]yes thanks. According to Crimelab Billy batts real anem was never identified.

GoodfellaOggie YAYA he would knwo this stuff. I just watched Godfellas again Friday, and figured i'd check up on Lufthnas aonCrmeLab. VERY complicated.

Re: Lufthansa #194103
04/07/02 02:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ricardo:
yes thanks. According to Crimelab Billy batts real anem was never identified.

GoodfellaOggie YAYA he would knwo this stuff. I just watched Godfellas again Friday, and figured i'd check up on Lufthnas aonCrmeLab. VERY complicated.[/QB]
yes Ricardo, we have different source. if i remember right from what i've read, Billy Batts is identified in the book. . .

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Re: Lufthansa #194104
04/07/02 04:50 PM
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that heist at jfk was and still is the biggest caper ever to not be 100% solved and no money
was ever recovered,goodfellas a nice read still does not tell the true story,a slow book but more
accurate is(the heist)all the names are real and
the accounts of all who died are accurate,only
1 person was ever convicted.

Re: Lufthansa #194105
04/07/02 11:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by eddietheplumber:
that heist at jfk was and still is the biggest caper ever to not be 100% solved and no money
was ever recovered,goodfellas a nice read still does not tell the true story,a slow book but more
accurate is(the heist)all the names are real and
the accounts of all who died are accurate,only
1 person was ever convicted.
Louis Werner!

Re: Lufthansa #194106
04/08/02 10:16 AM
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yeah thats right,and to this day he never ratted,
james burke was never indicted on the jfk job but
a scam fixing basketball at B.C. he later caught
a murder charge while in jail.
Tommy was not clipped at a sit-down but just vanished car and all,it's thought that paulie vario had him crushed and dumped like marty and paulie's girl,vario did not like tommy and vario
would not have opened the books for him.another fact most people do not know is that johnny gotti
was very involved in the heist,he supplied the garage to switch plates,he supplied the plates and
jfk was his base,he got 250,000$ for his trouble,
even burke was surprised to find out that they actually got as much as they did,the orignal score
they figured was 500,ooo$ not 6 mill.
Sepe was killed by pissed-off drug dealers,the
man they found frozen was a associate of burkes and varios who owed them 300,000$.tommy killed edwards by order of vario,tommy was actually hiding edwards,none of burkes crew were made into
the LUCCHESE faction so killing them all was not a issue for paulie.I have also heard that tommy went into hiding after he killed edwards,and he is still alive today.IT'S JUST A RUMOR.

Re: Lufthansa #194107
04/08/02 02:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by eddietheplumber:
yeah thats right,and to this day he never ratted,
james burke was never indicted on the jfk job but
a scam fixing basketball at B.C. he later caught
a murder charge while in jail.
Tommy was not clipped at a sit-down but just vanished car and all,it's thought that paulie vario had him crushed and dumped like marty and paulie's girl,vario did not like tommy and vario
would not have opened the books for him.another fact most people do not know is that johnny gotti
was very involved in the heist,he supplied the garage to switch plates,he supplied the plates and
jfk was his base,he got 250,000$ for his trouble,
even burke was surprised to find out that they actually got as much as they did,the orignal score
they figured was 500,ooo$ not 6 mill.
Sepe was killed by pissed-off drug dealers,the
man they found frozen was a associate of burkes and varios who owed them 300,000$.tommy killed edwards by order of vario,tommy was actually hiding edwards,none of burkes crew were made into
the LUCCHESE faction so killing them all was not a issue for paulie.I have also heard that tommy went into hiding after he killed edwards,and he is still alive today.IT'S JUST A RUMOR.
Tommy hidng, hmm, sounds good.

Maybe he still IS a made member of thebLucheses, eh was only born in 1950, he'd be 52 today!

Re: Lufthansa #194108
04/09/02 10:33 AM
04/09/02 10:33 AM
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none of that crew were made guys,thats why vario got so much heat,tommy killed a button man for the
gambinos(BILLY BATS,CASTELLANO WANTED TOMMY DEAD!)


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