Hi everybody, I need to know important events that happened during this period to write into my GF4 script.

How did the Castellamerese war start, (Somebody please help me spell that correctly lol)
When did Las vegas Casinos and Hotels get big?
What about he Irish war in the 30's.
i saw Untouchables what happened to Capone ebtween tax evasion in 1929 and syphillis in 1947?
When ddi prohibiton start and end.
Whe did Teamsters start in Las vegas?

Anything else is helpful. I nee dates, or at LEAST years.

Thanks.

Not that I think for a second that there will be a GF4 (let alone a non-puzo writing it), but good luck. I hope it works.

If I were you, I'd pay VERY CLOSE ATTENTION to Mario Puzo's "between the lines'" indication that many Mafia-guys were originally trained to be priests. I remember him mentioning that in several books.

Therefore, you might want to give Andrew Hagen an "operating" part of the Family.

I assume you're interested in broad strokes, Ricardo, so, between 1927 and '44:
--The St. Valentine's Day Massacre focused national revulsion on Prohibition-era violence. It also motivated President Hoover to move against Al Capone. He was convicted of income tax evasion in 1931, effectively ending his leadership of the Chicago outfit.
--The ultimate winner of the Castellemmarese War of 1930-31 was Charlie (Lucky) Luciano, who then formed The Commission, which included the heads of the Five New York Mafia families and a rotating membership of four non-New York Dons. The significance of the Commission is that it made the Mafia a national force and (sometimes)resulted in a modicum of inter-gang cooperation. Previously the Mafia had been small, mostly disconnected local and regional families concerned with local activities.
--With repeal of Prohibition in 1933, organized crime focused on labor racketeering, infiltration of legitimate businesses and trade associations (especially those involved in the garment trades, construction, trucking, wholesale foods, and Hollywood studios), the dope traffic, and of course, gambling, which it always had been involved in.
--As for Nevada: Though prostitution had always been a local option, gambling was illegal until 1931, when the legislature legalized gambling. With construction about to begin on the Boulder (later Hoover) dam, thousands of well-paid workers would be coming to a site only 25 miles from Las Vegas (then the state's fourth-largest city with 5,000 population). The legislature wanted to tax gambling profits. This set off a boom in Vegas and the rest of the state.
--The heyday of the big Nevada hotels began after '44. There were at least seven hotel/casinos in Vegas in '44, all of them in the "old West" style, some air-conditioned. Benjamin (Bugsy) Siegel had bought the partly completed Flamingo from Billy Wilkerson, publisher of the Hollywood Reporter, a degenerate gambler whose debts left him unable to finish the hotel. The Flamingo opened on 12/26/46, and shut immediately after a disastrous debut. It started making money when it reopened the following spring. Siegel was assassinated on 6/20/47. The Flamingo was immediately taken over by Moe Sedway and Gus Greenbaum, who made money hand over fist. Soon modern hotel/casinos began sprouting up all over the place.
--Though Siegel is credited as the father of modern Vegas, the real patriarch was Morris Barney (Moe) Dalitz, former king of Cleveland's rum-running rackets during Prohibition and leader of the Mayfield Road gang (the model for the "Lakeville Road boys" whom Hyman Roth referred to in GFII). He was the biggest owner, political power and charitable works donor during the gangster-ownership era, which stretched from '47 until the newly formed Gaming Commission started cracking down on gangsters starting in 1959-60. Dalitz was a power even after 1960. Howard Hughes became Mr. Las Vegas starting in the late '60's, then the title passed to Kirk Kerkorian, chief of the MGM entertainment empire, and Steve Wynn, until recently CEO of the Mirage Corp. Today's Vegas owes more to Disney than to Siegel.
Hope this helps.

Hey, lets not forget 1957, Appalachin. By the way where were the Corleones at Appalachin? I'll bet they sent Fredo then called the cops just for laughs.

The Corleones weren't there, they are a fictional family. Unless your asking if they were there in Ricardo's script.

Fredo and the cops thing - too funny.

Yeah I know they're fictional Turi but based on a broad composite of real life mob events. Surprised Puzo coulnd't manage to work some kind of Appalachin thing in since it was such a major media event in mob history. Perhaps it was too silly even for fiction.

Though it's a stretch, you could say the Don's convention scene in GF tries to parallel the Apalachin meeting. Some mob historians believe that one of the purposes of the Apalachin meeting was to bless the traffic in drugs.

*Cough Cough* Clemenza *Cough Cough*

Thank you, Turi, Turnbull, and everyone else. Rusty you were a big hellp too! As for Andrew Hagen, I thought 1927-1944 said it all!

I've got ideas of whose these people COULD be in The Godfather world.

Roth-Lanksy
Moe-Siegel
Maranzello-Maranzano

I've got a Dutch Schultz, Albert Anastasia, Frank Scalise, Vito Genovese, Carlo gambino, Joe Profaci, Joe Bonnano, and Tommy Luchese.

I honestly can'tt hink of who could be LUCKY Luciano in the Godfather world? Any help on Luciano?

.[/qb][/QUOTE]*Cough Cough* Clemenza *Cough Cough*

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Better take something for that cough there Rico or you will wind up just like Clemenza.

I read the mirrored opposite. It was supposed to ban the traffick of narcotics, in accordance with the stiff new laws in place (1951 Boggs Act, 1956 Narcotics Control Act). Interesting spin you put there, Turnbull.[/b][/quote]Thanks, Rusty. I've read the opposite as well. Once again, mobsters aren't exactly the types to leave memoirs and literature for the likes of us to pore over and get definitive answers. As you know, Vito Genovese, who called the meeting, was sent to Atlanta on a narcotics conviction not too long after the Apalachin meeting, and died in prison.
One of the fictions about the Mafia is that the Dons tried to prevent drug trafficking. Publicly they "deplored" drugs, but some--probably most-- profited from narcotics.