Pagans Motorcycle Club bikers charged with beating up Hells Angel https://gangstersinc.ning.com/profi...agan-s-motorcycle-club-hit-with-drug-gun

And this week: Pagans Motorcycle Club president “Conan” pleads guilty to gun charge – Pagans MC feeling the heat https://gangstersinc.ning.com/blog/pagans-motorcycle-club-president-conan-pleads-guilty-to-gun-charg

Didn’t the Mongols try this form of heavy expansion about 10 years ago? Nearly dismantled the entire club. These guys never learn.

The bikers will be the next Cosa Nostra but without rules that nobody follow.

A pagan knocks the crap out of a Hells Angel in Newark, 100 yards from the Angels clubhouse and no retribution a few years back. Seems the Pagans made a point and got away with it.

They go back to the 50s.

Greasers are a youth subculture that emerged in the 1950s and early 1960s from predominantly working class and lower class teenagers and young adults in the United States. The subculture remained prominent into the mid-1960s and was particularly embraced by certain ethnic groups in urban areas, particularly Italian Americans, Irish Americans, and Latino Americans.
The greaser subculture may have emerged in the post-World War II era among the motorcycle clubs and gangs of the late 1940s in the United States, though it was certainly established by the 1950s, when it was increasingly adopted by ethnic urban youth.

No one will be the next Cosa Nostra in the US. The good old time for organized crime is over, neither the bikers nor other groups will ever gain the kind of power mafia had in the 60s and 70s. In Canada yeah the Hells Angels are organized like the mafia and have ties to politicians and cops.

Never say Never

Correct. Cosa Nostra has been seriously weakened (from both inside and outside forces). It will never regain the power it once welded. Not even close!

And as far as the Russians, Israelis, Chinese, Japanese, outlaw bikers, Colombians, Mexicans, Salvadorans, etc., etc., etc.,.......NOBODY will ever come close to what Cosa Nostra was! Not even close. And people kid themselves to imagine anything different.

And even though they are still the most powerful, even the Sicilian Mafia and the N’drangheta are not what they once were.

The world has changed! And law enforcement has way too many weapons in their arsenal to fight these organizations today.

I largely agree with you but I don`t think the Ndrangheta has been weakened, if anything, their power and reach expanded in the past 30 years or so.

I agree that N'drangheta is still very powerful by comparison, but they too have been weakened from what they once were. So many of their Calabrian members flipping to the government has to hurt. It is not a 'positive'

They gained momentum from the decline and problems Cosa Nostra has had, but once LE targeted them also, slowly but surely they are feeling the pain as well

Not only in Canada, in Australia, Germany, Holland etc..some clubs have morphed into highly organised crime syndicates and informers are very rare.

No. Only in the world of reporters, tv specials, and cops that want to sell their books.

Imagine the Pagans taking over a bunch of unions. Or the 81 responsible for a 10% increase in concrete in NYC. Never.

This post is a cut and paste that is a hodge podge word jumble and doesn't make any sense at all, as a whole.

The term greaser had at least four very different meanings over a 20 year period.

And yes, some bikers were greasers (which alone can mean four completely different things), and some greasers became bikers.