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Which was the smallest family in 1963?
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This FBI chart shows the U.S families in 1963. Who would have been the smallest in terms of made members? My guess is Colorado? And second is Milwaukee? What do you guess answer? ![[Linked Image]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/24/c0/c624c08fa3f5a9fa6e57ac9144b59699.jpg)
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Re: Which was the smallest family in 1963?
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The small families to me is one of the most intriguing topics when it come to organized crime. This FBI chart shows the U.S families in 1963. Who would have been the smallest in terms of made members? My guess is Colorado? And second is Milwaukee? What do you guess answer? ![[Linked Image]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/24/c0/c624c08fa3f5a9fa6e57ac9144b59699.jpg) @chin were they all observed as being on the commission at this time? or maybe they were represented by another family and weren't listed?
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Re: Which was the smallest family in 1963?
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@NYMafia awesome. I just responded to the Cerrito thread also. Great stuff!
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Re: Which was the smallest family in 1963?
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The small families to me is one of the most intriguing topics when it come to organized crime. This FBI chart shows the U.S families in 1963. Who would have been the smallest in terms of made members? My guess is Colorado? And second is Milwaukee? What do you guess answer? ![[Linked Image]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/24/c0/c624c08fa3f5a9fa6e57ac9144b59699.jpg) @chin were they all observed as being on the commission at this time? or maybe they were represented by another family and weren't listed? The only families on the Commission in the 1960s were the New York families, Buffalo, Chicago, Philadelphia and Detroit
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Re: Which was the smallest family in 1963?
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new orleans had 6 made members according to joe colombo at that time Where did you get this information from? They were undoubtedly a small family but I thought they were in the 20-25 range at that time.
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Re: Which was the smallest family in 1963?
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new orleans had 6 made members according to joe colombo at that time Where did you get this information from? They were undoubtedly a small family but I thought they were in the 20-25 range at that time. On 4 December 1968, Greg Scarpa attended a Christmas party attended by some captains and the members who reported direct to Colombo. At that party, Colombo gave a speech where he updated those present on the leadership of the New York families and gave a history of LCN in America: 'COLOMBO explained that the first "family" came from Sicily and settled in New Orleans and inasmuch as they were the predecessor of all subsequent "families" have always been afforded the highest respect and esteem and have always maintained themselves highly. In fact, COLOMBO pointed out that whereas other "families" would have to go to the "Commission", of which COLOMBO proudly boasted being a member, the New Orleans "family", because of exalted position, could make decisions on its own. COLOMBO then cited the example that at the present time the New Orleans "family" under MARCELLO had only five remaining members, the "boss", "underboss", "consulieri", and two "soldiers", the youngest of which was either 44 or 46 years of age, and faces the possibility of dying out unless new members are made. COLOMBO said New Orleans could have, on its own, "opened the books", but because of the tact and diplomacy of MARCELLO, went before the "Commission" for approval in making new "soldiers", which the "Commission" naturally granted. (Informant believes this was the reason for the La Stella Restaurant meeting). Informant said COLOMBO then explained that in the near future, New Orleans would be enlarging its "family" and that if anyone heard of new members being "made", this would not be the case in the tri-state area.' https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=92071&search=%22persico%22_and+%22franzese%22#relPageId=4&tab=page
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Re: Which was the smallest family in 1963?
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@Chin_Gigante This is very interesting information. It comes back to my theory that most people have a very flat or 1 dimensional understanding of LCN. Their are subtle nuances that like that that can't be quantified. Most people would assume that New Orleans wasn't as much an important factor because it wasn't heavily associated with NY or the Outfit. Being the "first Family" would warrant respect, though I would say their location along with Marcello vast earning capabilities made them a force
"Joe Bananas went after Carlo Gambino, the war went on for seven years..... When guys go to the mattresses, they're not out earning" -Tony Soprano
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