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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #987992
03/21/20 02:32 PM
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We got one case where I live and that was a physician that traveled out of state. At the end of February our two hospitals were packed with people who ended up having a common cold or season flu and still keeps happening. Hospitals are under supplied as shipments went to big cities, and thus face masks and sanitizers are in low supply. I still go out, but take as much precautions as I can. It is going to get worst before it get better, and when trucking shuts down, then you know that we are SOOLAJWF.


"I have this Nightmare. I'm on 5th avenue watching the St. Patrick's Day parade and I have a coronary and nine thousand cops march happily over my body." Chief Sidney Green
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: Giacomo_Vacari] #987994
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We live in a city, but it's in a county classified as "rural." Only one case so far, but Infection is only as far away as a sneeze, cough, or breath. Population density is low here, which is a big potential benefit. We also have a large variety of big food stores: three Fry's, three Safeways, three Walmarts, two Sprouts--all within a five mile radius of each other--plus Costco and Trader Joe. People are hoarding, and some shelves are bare. But, so far, we've been able to get most of what we need.

I pray for everyone. I'm especially concerned about workers in bars, restaurants and small businesses who are out of work, and even more concerned with brave people who have to work in stores, hospitals and medical offices, to serve the rest of us.


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #987995
03/21/20 03:31 PM
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Yeah alot of stores in my area are bare in the disinfectant, hand soaps, and TP. On the lookout for lysol but all 5 big stores and 7 or 8 smaller stores were out last weekend, and as soon as their shipments came in they solicit within two hours or less. Made homemade hand sanitizers enough supplies to make three bottles with some rubbing alcohol left, JD and Bacardi were too weak, so I just used rubbing alcohol and Alo vera gel. Why waste good alchohol? Soap and water can not be beat, but the sanitizers come in handy if you are on the move or your water in the house does not work. Mainly use as a back up which I rather have then not have.


"I have this Nightmare. I'm on 5th avenue watching the St. Patrick's Day parade and I have a coronary and nine thousand cops march happily over my body." Chief Sidney Green
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: Hollander] #988000
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Originally Posted by Hollander
Almost 800 deaths the last 24h in Italy.


And around 5500 new cases


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988009
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Whats different is not so much that its deadly but its much more contageous than the regular flu. It can also attack the lungs.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: Turnbull] #988012
03/21/20 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Turnbull
This pandemic is going to have some far-reaching effects:

1. Telecommuting will become permanent for millions of workers as businesses realize they can get their business done with much less office space and overhead. Office buildings will empty out.
2. Online shopping for everything will accelerate and become permanent, closing tens of thousands of retail businesses, large and small. Mall closings will accelerate. Municipal tax bases will shrink. Hundreds of thousands, if not millins, of retail jobs will disappear.
3. Online learning will become the rule, rather than the exception, leading to "classroom" sizes in thousands, with no intellectual interaction among teachers and students. More rote learning, less thinking and discussion.
4. Supermarket and restaurant delivery/pickup will become more widespread.
5. Social media will grow dramatically because people will spend weeks in isolation.
6. The travel industry may never recover. Airlines and cruise lines will have wholesale shakeouts and consolidations, with many gone forever. The enormous loss of wealth in the stock market will leave people with far less disposable income for travel and leisure for years.
7. Temporary movie theater closings will become permanent as studios directly stream first run movies to viewers, or through Amazon, Netflix, Hulu, etc.
8. Sports fans will get more used to viewing their teams on TV rather than in stadiums. Ticket prices will fall.
8. With rallies and conventions cancelled due to Corona, political campaigning will change dramatically. This will probably help Trump, who will get far more exposure because he's the incumbent and already dominates the news cycle as no other president before him. The Dem candidate won't have big audiences and mass turnouts to boost his chances. Going forward, voters will have much less chance to see their candidates in action--only in ads and on social media, in images that they create for themselves.

Your views?


I definitely agree with a lot you say here, but I don't think it'll happen quite so quickly once this "pandemic" blows over. I use the quotation marks because honestly, I believe this is mostly media driven. Not to say the virus is made up or we shouldn't be cautious, but it's definitely not the doomsday scenario the media will have you believe it is (remember, we're just 8 short months away from a Presidential election). But to get back on topic, I think as thebigfella said, most people are ready to get out and be around others again. I personally don't mind as it's given me time to slow down my daily life, reflect, begin reading again, and do other things. Furthermore, I wish more of the precautions we're putting into place now (such as washing our hands, being more mindful of others around us, having something simple like hand sanitizer available at stores we patron) will all go away once this is over and we as a society will have learned nothing unfortunately.


To break it down more, 1) telecommuting is beneficial, but I'm sure many places want their employees at work "to keep an eye on them." How many people are home right now actually working vs. "working"?
2) Can't disagree with this as this has been the trend thanks to Amazon but when people need something in a pinch (like TP, water, bread, etc. now), people will still hit up the brick and mortar stores.
3) Again, I think this is further away than the current trend. They want kids in school (and believe me) the parents want them in school too.
4) This I can definitely see as well, however, don't underestimate the power of "a night out" rather than "Netflix and chill."
5) This has already happened and will only continue to get worse.
6) I hope both industries will adopt this "cleansing" between trips as they're doing now, but again, due to cost measures, once it's more readily acceptable to travel again, it'll go away. Airline travel is a necessity for many. Cruises are a luxury and should definitely feel the effect more.
7) The idea of streaming moves in theaters at home has been floating around for a few years now. However, the sticking point has always been price. The studios want to make as much money as possible, being that they financed the picture and the theaters in turn want to maximize it too. Might be hard pressed with a $20 price tag to get me to switch (but for couples/families, it could be a different scenario). However, until this becomes more of the norm, studios will still prefer to have their bread buttered at the theater.
8) Prices are already too high and more fans are staying at home due to HDTV's and the comfort of their own home. True, there is nothing like experiencing a game live, however, for a family or anyone who isn't a corporate sponsor, it can seriously add up quickly.
9) I don't think lack of crowds will help Trump. Once this is over, people will still come out to support what they're passionate about. This will either hurt or help Trump but that'll all depend upon the economy. Personally, I think this whole coronavirus is nothing more than an attempt from the left to derail Trump. All of the gains he's made in the stock market are virtually gone. People are basically out of work in some industries due to having to be at home. This is an election year and they want him out so badly, they're pulling out of the stops in order to prevent his re-election.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: Irishman12] #988014
03/21/20 05:59 PM
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I want to add two more possibilities to my list:
1. Americans' faith in government, agencies, businesses and "leaders" will decline even more than it has after decades of mishandled disasters and crises--i..e., Vietnam war, oil embargoes, Iran hostage, inflation/unemployment, 9/11, endless Mideast wars, big recession.
2. Drastic government measures to combat Coronavirus will destabilize already shaky democratic governments in Eastern Europe, fortify authoritarian movements in Western and Central Europe, and probably reintroduce government control of China's economy, bringing it out of touch with real marketplaces and further disrupting global supply chains.


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988044
03/21/20 10:50 PM
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Many people in Holland still go out and don't keep their distance! The fact that, despite the urgent call to keep an appropriate distance, people frequently gathered together in parks, at beaches and on terraces, shows that people are apparently still not aware of the severity of the coronavirus pandemic.


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988045
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In Italy and Spain they don't have enough ICU's that's why there are so many deaths.


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: Lenox] #988046
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Originally Posted by Lenox
Whats different is not so much that its deadly but its much more contageous than the regular flu. It can also attack the lungs.


Yes they die from pneumonia.

If they don't stop eating wild animals like bats dogs cats snakes in Asia and Africa the next virus will even more deadly!

Last edited by Hollander; 03/22/20 12:13 AM.

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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988048
03/22/20 01:53 AM
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988051
03/22/20 04:47 AM
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That flu pandemic killed 10's of millions around the world at the time in 1918 to 1920. We can go back to the late 1950s to the Asian Flu which killed nearly 70,000 Americans, the flu pandemic of 1968 also took its toll.


"I have this Nightmare. I'm on 5th avenue watching the St. Patrick's Day parade and I have a coronary and nine thousand cops march happily over my body." Chief Sidney Green
Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988086
03/22/20 09:59 PM
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Dow futures are down about 800 points. So are NASDAQ and S&P.


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988094
03/23/20 03:05 AM
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London Market opens in about an hour.


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988096
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Bergamo celebrated on February 19. Local football pride Atalanta had just given football to Valencia in the Champions League and won 4-1. The tens of thousands of fans present dance and sing with pleasure. However, a month later, Italian doctors point to that duel as the cause of the huge coronavirus outbreak in the Bergamo region.


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988106
03/23/20 02:37 PM
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So quiet its creepy.

I heard a report that the numbers of deaths in USA & S. Korea will be lower than though at first since people are following instructions of practicing Social Distancing.
1.3%

So sad how its hammering Italy.
Over 9%


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988108
03/23/20 03:24 PM
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Do we know of any costra nostra guy's that have contracted this virus?


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988116
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That’s the U.K. on lockdown now....

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988137
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Italian health officials voiced cautious hope after the coronavirus death toll edged down the last two days and the rate of infections slowed.


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988153
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Our county has issued a stay at home order. It allows jogging which I will do since the gyms are closed.


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988156
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County next to me is under a shelter in place as of midnight tonight until April 3rd.

Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988163
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A study by researchers at the University of Oxford claimed up to 50 per cent of the UK population may have already contracted the coronavirus. It suggests the disease may have already been prevalent in the UK up to two months before the first case was officially diagnosed.


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988165
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Italy needs another hug a Chinese day


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988169
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20% of the people hospitalized in the US are between 20 and 44.


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988177
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Spain is getting Hammered now.


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: DuesPaid] #988196
03/25/20 02:07 PM
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A friend sent me this interesting link on pandemics in history:
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/hi..._medium=email&utm_placement=etcetera


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E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988203
03/25/20 04:52 PM
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Here in NY, it's very quiet. Took about six trips to several different stores to get toilet paper and chicken, but finally got some yesterday. This is a whole new world. The streets and stores are fairly empty, and hopefully the crazy hoarding is coming to an end. My husband has been telecommuting, but my daughter lost her job last Thursday. She's an artist and designed for an awards company. No school, no sports, no graduations, no corporate events, no fundraisers sort of put an end to the need for a plaque or trophy. Our other daughter is a nurse, so she's still out there every day.

Thankfully, we're all healthy, although our son-in-law was exposed by a coworker who tested positive. He was last with them on 3/16 and he has no symptoms so far, so fingers crossed!

Stay safe, everyone. The only one who seems to be liking this is the dog. She's thrilled to have everyone home. The cats? Not so much.


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988220
03/25/20 07:49 PM
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I just got put on a 5 day furlough, guy I came in contact with was kicked off the job site because he came to work with flu like symptoms.


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Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988269
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I work at a one of the major airports and workers at that airport even tsa personnel is becoming effected with the virus; please people, stop traveling it's not safe period!


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Re: Coronavirus COVID-19 [Re: U talkin' da me ??] #988270
03/27/20 01:06 AM
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I wonder what the long term effects are going to be. We already surpassed China with known cases.


"I have this Nightmare. I'm on 5th avenue watching the St. Patrick's Day parade and I have a coronary and nine thousand cops march happily over my body." Chief Sidney Green
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