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Re: Michal's choices
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05/30/20 12:08 AM
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though Vito's speech at the peace meeting 'cleared' Michael of all these false charges!
I note that you put "cleared" in quotes--right! Yes, Vito said, "My oldest son, forced to flee because of this Solozzo business." He didn't outright say Michael killed him...didn't outright say he didn't kill him. Nice bit of legal circumlocution. Tom taught him well.  Good pick up! Turnbull “legal circumlocution†nicely done indeed Sollozzo was stalling for time until Sollozzo could make another, this time successful, attempt on Vito's life Sollozzo could have had the meeting with Consiglieri Tom whom Sollozzo himself acknowledged Tom is not in the muscle-end of the family, by request! without having to ambush / kidnap Tom again Sollozzo's proposition was, for Tom to make peace between Sollozzo and Sonny, persuade Sonny to make the narcotics deal, believing Vito was dead Why did Sollozzo want the meeting with 'civilian' Michael to hear and pass on to Sonny, Sollozzo's revised proposition, the deal so good the Corleones can't refuse – insincere truce request! Whilst Michel undoubtedly would want to help / protect his father and family as the Police officer told McCluskey “The kid's clean Captain He [Michael] is a war hero. He's never been busted for the rackets†- Did Sollozzo think 'messenger' Michael wouldn't wise up to Sollozzo's tricks
- What did Sollozzo hope to achieve with Michael that Sollozzo couldn't with Consiglieri Tom
- Tom too would have had to do the same – pass on the truce request to Sonny
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Re: Michal's choices
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05/30/20 11:17 PM
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In the book, Sonny says that Michael can get to Sollozzo because, "Most important they got him down as faggy...." Where they think Tom might be part of something cute, they think Michael's no threat. well michael showed them 
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Re: Michal's choices
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05/31/20 01:06 AM
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I think the reason is that Sol knew Tom favored the deal even before the shooting, and said he'd "try" to persuade Sonny and the capos after Sol kidnapped him and let him go. But obviously Tom was not successful in getting Sonny to come around. Why try Tom a second time? Perhaps Sol thought that Michael, as a "real" son to Vito and a "real" brother to Sonny, could be more persuasive.
"Personal, not business." When Sollozzo made his [first] proposition - make peace between Sollozzo and Sonny, persuade Sonny to make the narcotics deal - to kidnapped Consiglieri Tom, Sollozzo believed Vito was dead I think Sollozzo realised, with Vito alive, Sonny won't / can't make the deal even if “Sonny was hot for his deal†Sollozzo's “Well that's bad luck for me and bad luck for you if you don't make that deal!†was a knee-jerk reaction out of frustration and trepidation, having to explain his failure to kill Vito, to Tattaglia [Barzini] and start all over again I believe that's why Sollozzo requested the meeting for his [second] proposition, buying time until Sollozzo could make another, this time successful, attempt on Vito's life Sollozzo didn't know that the Corleones had a man in McCluskey's precinct and would find out the 'secret' meeting place Sollozzo was smug, secure and invulnerable being guarded by the Police captain In my view, whatever Sollozzo hoped to achieve with 'civilian' Michael which I believe was to pass on to Sonny, Sollozzo's revised second proposition - his insincere truce request, Sollozzo could have, with Consiglieri Tom as either was just the 'messenger' And if it was Tom! Sollozzo would have lived!! My understanding is, Sollozzo wanted the Corleones to interfere no longer until Vito has recovered to start discussing the narcotics deal again or similar - his insincere truce request – not because “Perhaps Sol thought Michael, as a "real" son to Vito and a "real" brother to Sonny, could be more persuasive†to go for the narcotics deal? Besides in fairness to Tom, he didn't get the opportunity “in getting Sonny to come around†because Vito was not dead
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Re: Michal's choices
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06/08/20 09:34 AM
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why was Michael “distancing himself from his family I don't think that Michael thought that the Mafia was evil so much as it was backward and unproductive. I think that he probably thought similarly about the other trappings of being a Corleones, such as Catholicism and Italian culture, and also family (with a small f). It was Michael's bad luck that Vito got shot when he did: Michael was a grown man, yet hadn't really established other ties yet, so he had to get involved. If Vito had gotten shot five years later, Michael would have been established in his own suburban or college town life, with a couple of Protestant children, and he wouldn't have been expected to make any kind of contribution to the ensuing fight.
"All of these men were good listeners; patient men."
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