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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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04/14/20 07:19 PM
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Good read; I think Orena should have been Boss... He was respected and alot of the guys in the family liked him.
Regarding Nicky Grancio and Micheal Franzese; Mike in a recent interview said he was close with Grancio; Anyone know if they had business dealings together?
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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04/14/20 10:36 PM
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Good read; I think Orena should have been Boss... He was respected and alot of the guys in the family liked him.
Regarding Nicky Grancio and Micheal Franzese; Mike in a recent interview said he was close with Grancio; Anyone know if they had business dealings together? imo Persico was more respected and he was established longer than Vic - vic sitting next to tommy d. gold mine photo. when was this taken? late 50s or early 1960s?
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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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04/15/20 12:41 AM
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Good read; I think Orena should have been Boss... He was respected and alot of the guys in the family liked him.
Regarding Nicky Grancio and Micheal Franzese; Mike in a recent interview said he was close with Grancio; Anyone know if they had business dealings together? imo Persico was more respected and he was established longer than Vic - vic sitting next to tommy d. gold mine photo. when was this taken? late 50s or early 1960s? Early to mid 60’s
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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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04/15/20 04:25 PM
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Anyone have any idea how far out on the island the family went? Suffolk County goes to the end so did the family have racquets in Montauk or did they stop in the Shirley area? Maybe Bellport or Patchogue? A lot of money out there any ideas? I was told that a made man from Colombos operates a carting company in my town. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...elony-settlement-tipping-fees-1.36605128
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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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04/16/20 10:35 AM
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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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04/16/20 10:23 PM
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Was Persico and his family really mob royalty? From what I have read, I don’t think he is on the same level of successful mobster as someone like Gigante. I read on here from someone that they really aren’t that wealthy present day and it makes me wonder(if that statement is true, it could very well be bs so don’t take my word for it) what it was all for if the next generation of Persicos didn’t see the financial benefits. Why didn’t everyone want to rally around Allie boy? Did they feel he wasn’t going to be a good boss or were they tired of Carmine’s way of doing things? No way in hell was Persico on Gigante's level. I read a while back that they didn't even like eachother. I'm still trying to figure out what Corallo; Castellano; Gigante and Rastelli thought about him in 1979-1981 when he was out on the streets.
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“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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Was Persico and his family really mob royalty? From what I have read, I don’t think he is on the same level of successful mobster as someone like Gigante. I read on here from someone that they really aren’t that wealthy present day and it makes me wonder(if that statement is true, it could very well be bs so don’t take my word for it) what it was all for if the next generation of Persicos didn’t see the financial benefits. Why didn’t everyone want to rally around Allie boy? Did they feel he wasn’t going to be a good boss or were they tired of Carmine’s way of doing things? a couple of mil is wealthy from carmine persico alone, work it out. he is not on gigante's level but he is still up there as one of the most successful we've ever seen. and the persico family are in that category for the colombos, allie boy, teddy boy, teddy persico sr etc
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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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04/22/20 11:36 AM
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Was Persico and his family really mob royalty? From what I have read, I don’t think he is on the same level of successful mobster as someone like Gigante. I read on here from someone that they really aren’t that wealthy present day and it makes me wonder(if that statement is true, it could very well be bs so don’t take my word for it) what it was all for if the next generation of Persicos didn’t see the financial benefits. Why didn’t everyone want to rally around Allie boy? Did they feel he wasn’t going to be a good boss or were they tired of Carmine’s way of doing things? a couple of mil is wealthy from carmine persico alone, work it out. he is not on gigante's level but he is still up there as one of the most successful we've ever seen. and the persico family are in that category for the colombos, allie boy, teddy boy, teddy persico sr etc To have a couple million still left for your family after all of his legal fees is big. We obviously don’t know how much money he has. Being the boss pays a big price. There are people who were once under him as mere soldiers who never went to jail and are worth hundreds of millions today.
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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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Think Orena may have been inducted in the late 60's or maybe sometime after Persico or Tom DiBella became boss.
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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05/18/20 09:49 AM
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No way the families are now cool! That’s insane. What happened to orenas sons who we made? They were shelved and most of others and hang around s killed . And they are together at family functions and it s the generation after the sons that are up state together and the women of these kids / adults and they absolutely get to use the family compound . I see it with my own eyes. Don’t forget these are sisters and brothers and first cousins that went through that. There must be fifteen male 18 - 30 year olds in there families and at least four Carmines , plus many have been coming from Italy for thirty years and more . And Michael should be home tomorrow and there will be a huge party at a certain compound regardless of masks.
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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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05/19/20 10:32 AM
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It's almost like a lightning rod. Does it mean hes the most powerful in the family probaly not True on everything you say but he Teddy has bad judgment
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Re: 3rd Colombo War - Persico vs. Orena
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05/19/20 12:07 PM
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I doubt it's Andrew Russo but I'm sure he has alot of say in what goes on. Didn't he say on wiretap that he's never going to retire in the life. Guy has to be over 80. Wasn't he Mike Franzese original captain? .
“I called your f—— house five times yesterday, now, if you’re going to disregard my m—– f—— phone calls, I’ll blow you and that f —— house up… This is not a f—— game. My time is valuable. If I ever hear anybody else calls you and you respond within five days, I’ll f—— kill you.†~ John Gotti.
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