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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: hoodlum] #984750
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by flamingokid123
Just check out the Persico compound , pretty nice. Many yrs ago I spent couple of years in Albany Ny. The winters were brutal. All those times driving up interstate 87 .to Albany .

Can IGoogle map this shit ?? just give me a town..etc..road etc..would love 2 explore even from satellite view....help Serp..

OR Flamingo....I 2 know u been around also....


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By the way Flamingo....I'm not on here as much as I used 2 b.. but I enjoy ur informative posts...


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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: hoodlum] #984752
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by flamingokid123
Just check out the Persico compound , pretty nice. Many yrs ago I spent couple of years in Albany Ny. The winters were brutal. All those times driving up interstate 87 .to Albany .

Can IGoogle map this shit ?? just give me a town..etc..road etc..would love 2 explore even from satellite view....help Serp..

Not exactly sure if this is it but this is what I found.
https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/mob-boss-carmine-persicos-house/view/google/

Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: Michael_Giovanni] #984754
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Originally Posted by Michael_Giovanni
Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by flamingokid123
Just check out the Persico compound , pretty nice. Many yrs ago I spent couple of years in Albany Ny. The winters were brutal. All those times driving up interstate 87 .to Albany .

Can IGoogle map this shit ?? just give me a town..etc..road etc..would love 2 explore even from satellite view....help Serp..

Not exactly sure if this is it but this is what I found.
https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/mob-boss-carmine-persicos-house/view/google/

Wow ..Thank u Mikey 4 the quick response & visual aid...it sure looks like where Serp said it would be..& he would know...thanx dude..VERY INTERESTING..


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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: Zavattoni] #984766
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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: Zavattoni] #984767
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Never seen that farm from the satellite before.

Anyway the two houses at front one is Carmine’s the river rock rancher the other one was a big barn remodels in the 70’s thelower floor is hidden garage doors and that where carman had his Rolls-Royce is and Joyce had her Chevy Caprice convertible that she loved the other half is bar and card rooms . The top floor is where the care taker of the property lives.

The big fountains out front between the two was built by an old Sicilian bricklayer Larry or Lawrence Carmine‘s brother had it built for Carmine for when he came out of the joint in 1980 it’s the first thing he’s seen when he rolled in the driveway .

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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: flamingokid123] #984768
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Originally Posted by flamingokid123
Just check out the Persico compound , pretty nice. Many yrs ago I spent couple of years in Albany Ny. The winters were brutal. All those times driving up interstate 87 .to Albany .


I spent a few winter and summer days up there driving the boys to meet friends I remember some good Italian restaurants there and I spent many of hours at the bar waiting and eating. The guys liked to go to one spot then disappear out the back door to another three hours later in the car back to the farm.


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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: Zavattoni] #984771
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Boring day at work. Million dollar question . Carmine persico knows the mafia rules like he was there when they really wrote them in the 50tys id say there golden era and 60tys. When did he appoint the next boss like carlo gambino on his death bed saying pauls next or tony ducks vic amuso. I dont think chin left a appointee when he died in prison either maybe its better to leave it up to the capos in the family. But i wonder if carmine left it to the family or stepped down and threw it to andy russo

Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: hoodlum] #984784
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
By the way Flamingo....I'm not on here as much as I used 2 b.. but I enjoy ur informative posts...


Appreciate it Hood. Thank you

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Originally Posted by Serpiente

Originally Posted by flamingokid123
Just check out the Persico compound , pretty nice. Many yrs ago I spent couple of years in Albany Ny. The winters were brutal. All those times driving up interstate 87 .to Albany .


I spent a few winter and summer days up there driving the boys to meet friends I remember some good Italian restaurants there and I spent many of hours at the bar waiting and eating. The guys liked to go to one spot then disappear out the back door to another three hours later in the car back to the farm.


All great stuff Serp. Thank you

Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: pmac] #984791
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Originally Posted by pmac
Boring day at work. Million dollar question . Carmine persico knows the mafia rules like he was there when they really wrote them in the 50tys id say there golden era and 60tys. When did he appoint the next boss like carlo gambino on his death bed saying pauls next or tony ducks vic amuso. I dont think chin left a appointee when he died in prison either maybe its better to leave it up to the capos in the family. But i wonder if carmine left it to the family or stepped down and threw it to andy russo



I asked someone that should know twice .... and twice I got the blank stare .


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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: hoodlum] #984812
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by Michael_Giovanni
Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by flamingokid123
Just check out the Persico compound , pretty nice. Many yrs ago I spent couple of years in Albany Ny. The winters were brutal. All those times driving up interstate 87 .to Albany .

Can IGoogle map this shit ?? just give me a town..etc..road etc..would love 2 explore even from satellite view....help Serp..

Not exactly sure if this is it but this is what I found.
https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/mob-boss-carmine-persicos-house/view/google/

Wow ..Thank u Mikey 4 the quick response & visual aid...it sure looks like where Serp said it would be..& he would know...thanx dude..VERY INTERESTING..



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I think its a thing up there.... my uncles place had no pool either.
I think they always thought of them as dangerous and swimming was a big lake or beach event.
Never had swimming pools.

Strange.


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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: hoodlum] #984816
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Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by Michael_Giovanni
Originally Posted by hoodlum
Originally Posted by flamingokid123
Just check out the Persico compound , pretty nice. Many yrs ago I spent couple of years in Albany Ny. The winters were brutal. All those times driving up interstate 87 .to Albany .

Can IGoogle map this shit ?? just give me a town..etc..road etc..would love 2 explore even from satellite view....help Serp..

Not exactly sure if this is it but this is what I found.
https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/mob-boss-carmine-persicos-house/view/google/

Wow ..Thank u Mikey 4 the quick response & visual aid...it sure looks like where Serp said it would be..& he would know...thanx dude..VERY INTERESTING..


No problem hood. I’m glad I could find it.

Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: Zavattoni] #984824
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If you are talking about a pool on Carmine’s compound there is a Olympic size pool with an outdoor kitchen bar sliding board diving boards also a pond east of that kinda behind Lil Allie boy old house not to be confused with Allie boys house.

You guys may be looking at wrong spot ....I don’t know what u are looking at .

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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: Zavattoni] #984830
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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: Zavattoni] #984837
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quick check michael persico only has 10 months left on his sentence. says hes in allenwood low so i guessing in a month or 2 he'll be at that work release in brooklyn at one of his familys businesses. that seemed quick thought he got 4 5yrs. maybe they shaved off some time with trumps new first time offender reform thing. bet the feds put up a stink about him working at his limo place which they said was like a colombo hangout

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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: Zavattoni] #984838
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also think he is made or atleast rite before he started the bid. no way the old bosses and carmines friends let him go to prison and get picked on by other made guys from other family almost disrespectfull if they didnt all the money and work he did for the colombo family and i mean like job work not hits. guys like a money making machine

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Originally Posted by pmac
also think he is made or atleast rite before he started the bid. no way the old bosses and carmines friends let him go to prison and get picked on by other made guys from other family almost disrespectfull if they didnt all the money and work he did for the colombo family and i mean like job work not hits. guys like a money making machine


I’ve been telling you for years he is taken care of and yes very well protected and he has plenty of business in other city’s in NY to keep him busy while being watched on release.


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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: Zavattoni] #984843
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What i mean say theres 6made guys and a 20 associates from all different families at any given federal prison in the northeast theres noway michael would be left with the low level associates and not sitting at the made guy table or even if they were having a pow wow about who killes Frank cali. Michael persico is a guy carli gambino envisioned in the future of the mafia a white collar criminal in there organization. Even thou his lawyers denie it in all the papers and court hearings that guy probaly got inducted in his lawyers office bathroom well on house arrest by someone in the colombo family and no other family is gonna stop his name hes been proven to there family for 40yrs

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Originally Posted by pmac
What i mean say theres 6made guys and a 20 associates from all different families at any given federal prison in the northeast theres noway michael would be left with the low level associates and not sitting at the made guy table or even if they were having a pow wow about who killes Frank cali. Michael persico is a guy carli gambino envisioned in the future of the mafia a white collar criminal in there organization. Even thou his lawyers denie it in all the papers and court hearings that guy probaly got inducted in his lawyers office bathroom well on house arrest by someone in the colombo family and no other family is gonna stop his name hes been proven to there family for 40yrs



Read between the lines .... he is protected


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Originally Posted by Serpiente
Originally Posted by pmac
What i mean say theres 6made guys and a 20 associates from all different families at any given federal prison in the northeast theres noway michael would be left with the low level associates and not sitting at the made guy table or even if they were having a pow wow about who killes Frank cali. Michael persico is a guy carli gambino envisioned in the future of the mafia a white collar criminal in there organization. Even thou his lawyers denie it in all the papers and court hearings that guy probaly got inducted in his lawyers office bathroom well on house arrest by someone in the colombo family and no other family is gonna stop his name hes been proven to there family for 40yrs



Read between the lines .... he is protected

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its weird the government went almost out there way to say michael was a high ranking associate. they just did the same thing to chin son vincent esposito who obviously is a made guy. he had to genovese soldiers go shakedown a few union guys he was caught with 4 million the feds said was the genovese slush fund and he was caught with lists of dead members and there replacements for induction into the genovese family. and it said these guys either died or were inducted after chin died so whys his son have these lists. cause hes either a capo or higher. but the gov never came out abd said hes a made guy. i found that strange

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I don’t know how to explain why but if it’s not done with other guys then nobody can say he got made with me if the only people that know are the top three or four in the family then LE is just one step behind instead of even.

I will say this I’ve been saying for years and years that the families have to use lie detectors and they have to strip and get hit with a wand before any high level shit is talked about.

You can bet the Westside and the Colombo’s are doing it and I would not doubt that since guys are not doing hits to make there worth I will bet that there are guys in the family that are watching other guys and I don’t mean lightly.

I am saying there is a system in place to stop the rats since there are no killings to speak of and if you are going to meetings and you are getting tested and wanted no way are these guys wearing a wire like they used to and if you lie detector comes up a little off you are being followed and more to make sure you are not doing anything you should not .

The guys that are not good at rackets that used to be used for hits are now being used as eyes or something like it .

It’s the only way .

Because if The guy brings up something in a conversation on the street when he knows he’s only allowed to talk about it at a meeting after procedures like I explained that a red flag goes up .

Nobody is aloud to share important info that can get them jammed up without that meeting and protocol to protect everyone .


Look at Barney nobody talks to him nobody sees him nobody knows nothing and Feds cannot gethim on wire tap and nobody has rated on him .

They have changed up how they operate and only the lower guys are getting caught on wire .

They had todo something to combat what was going on and it’s totally possible I am off but they definitely have something in place.

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heres the thing ive been trying to say serp. say theres some crazy bank robber associate of the luchese family from yonkers and hes in the same prison as michael persico who the gov says is only a high ranking associate, that bank robber guy and mike get in a disagreement whether the sky is blue and it turns into a fight maybe if that luchese associate was told beforehand by one of his familys guys michael a made guy with the colombos it probaly would never had happend. it doesnt matter who his dad or brother is. but if hes a made guy surposely amongst of the whites and made guys in prison there all 1 team so no one would slap him around or try to extort him. sounds like hes in a soft prison anyway i think steve the riffleman flemmi is there to. and if hes paying for protection when maybe he was in a higher level prison that will come back to him on the street, who knows maybe what i read about him is true hes just a business man but yaeh right he took advantage of his dads and brother and cousins positon to advance him in the real world so more power to him just come and agree with me serp you think hes a made guy if they didnt make him there dumb and they cant keep it secret from the other familys whats the point of inducting him

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another snow storm gonna walk to the bars and watch the mcgregor fight at 10

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Say he was not made before he went away and just a associate on record. I don’t think anyone in the family would take that chance.
If he was not made he was just before.

But nobody needs to know because if he was pushed up on word would get to that guys boss quickly that it’s hands off or that he was made but the boss of the other family would not have to explain to his soldiers.....only he is to be left alone.

But just saying my guess he been made a long time ago .....just a guess

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Originally Posted by Serpiente
I don’t know how to explain why but if it’s not done with other guys then nobody can say he got made with me if the only people that know are the top three or four in the family then LE is just one step behind instead of even.

I will say this I’ve been saying for years and years that the families have to use lie detectors and they have to strip and get hit with a wand before any high level shit is talked about.

You can bet the Westside and the Colombo’s are doing it and I would not doubt that since guys are not doing hits to make there worth I will bet that there are guys in the family that are watching other guys and I don’t mean lightly.

I am saying there is a system in place to stop the rats since there are no killings to speak of and if you are going to meetings and you are getting tested and wanted no way are these guys wearing a wire like they used to and if you lie detector comes up a little off you are being followed and more to make sure you are not doing anything you should not .

The guys that are not good at rackets that used to be used for hits are now being used as eyes or something like it .

It’s the only way .

Because if The guy brings up something in a conversation on the street when he knows he’s only allowed to talk about it at a meeting after procedures like I explained that a red flag goes up .

Nobody is aloud to share important info that can get them jammed up without that meeting and protocol to protect everyone .


Look at Barney nobody talks to him nobody sees him nobody knows nothing and Feds cannot gethim on wire tap and nobody has rated on him …….

They have changed up how they operate and only the lower guys are getting caught on wire .

They had todo something to combat what was going on and it’s totally possible I am off but they definitely have something in place.

Very nice summation & culmination Serp...only u can put it so many words...I feel that u r our pizzaboy of 2 day...luv it man!...


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Pizza is here and much more knowledgeable on NY I just grew up ona block with Scarf and as far as the Colombo ‘s that connection is blood .

No I am not blood with Colombo my connection is blood back to the early 60’s.

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I agree with Serp... I mean, Michael doesn’t need a button, right? Like who’s gonna fuck with a Persico? His dad was boss and one of his brothers is likely the new boss... maybe Allie real boss and Teddy as street boss.

Like, if Barney Bellomo’s brother gets locked up (if he has one) you think anyone from another family would try giving him a hard time in prison?

It doesn’t matter if Michael has any stripes to me, because he would obviously have a whole army behind him based off of his name alone. He can easily make one phone call to his brothers and have the situation handled. Now if the Persicos and their allies ever lost power then obviously it’s a different story.


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Re: Carmine Persico in 79-81 on the streets as Boss [Re: Serpiente] #984931
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Originally Posted by Serpiente
Pizza is here and much more knowledgeable on NY I just grew up ona block with Scarf and as far as the Colombo ‘s that connection is blood .

No I am not blood with Colombo my connection is blood back to the early 60’s.

I understand.


I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
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