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Re: What We Know About Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano
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I thought Stephen Graham's accent in the movie was appalling. It didn't bother me Moe, for a British actor he does a great job and I like him as an actor since Snatch.
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Re: What We Know About Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano
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I wasn't aware he was a one-time vice-president of the Teamsters. Not the international teamsters. A particular local in NJ
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Re: What We Know About Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano
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I wasn't aware he was a one-time vice-president of the Teamsters. Not the international teamsters. A particular local in NJ Thanks. I looked it up his brother Salvatore was also vice-president.
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Re: What We Know About Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano
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The Teamsters Hall they mention in The Irishman in Union City, NJ is still standing there to this day. I just drove by it this AM. The windows are all blacked out lol . Where do you live? I work for Verizon in Hudson County and we just ran Fios into the Teamsters building....My coworker asked the person in there, “Is Hoffa buried in here?†A very ODD thing to see in the ground floor of that building is, A HUGE bank style safe with a round door that I could barely move with all my might. I weigh 195lbs. It was either an old bank building or the spot where Tony Pro and Jimmy stored all the Teamster’s loot. The building is still in use BUT, you cannot just walk in. A contact had to let us in. Another irony about the building now is, day laborers hang right outside of it....Basically spitting on unions.
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Re: What We Know About Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano
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The Teamsters Hall they mention in The Irishman in Union City, NJ is still standing there to this day. I just drove by it this AM. The windows are all blacked out lol . Where do you live? I work for Verizon in Hudson County and we just ran Fios into the Teamsters building....My coworker asked the person in there, “Is Hoffa buried in here?†A very ODD thing to see in the ground floor of that building is, A HUGE bank style safe with a round door that I could barely move with all my might. I weigh 195lbs. It was either an old bank building or the spot where Tony Pro and Jimmy stored all the Teamster’s loot. The building is still in use BUT, you cannot just walk in. A contact had to let us in. Another irony about the building now is, day laborers hang right outside of it....Basically spitting on unions. I live in Jersey
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Re: What We Know About Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano
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tony pro seemed like the real deal. was he under bobby manna or bobby manna under him. there both jersey city guys rite? Tony Pro was originally from downtown. He was groomed by Cockeyed Nick Rattenni, the powerhouse Bronx/Yonkers captain, who was one of Costello's most ardent allies. He was quite a bit younger than Rattenni but served as Rattenni's best man when he was only about 18 and Rattenni was in his early 30's. He also stood Godfather to Nick's adopted son. When Pro grew in power and took over his first Jersey local, he moved there and eventually split his time between New York and Florida. He walked a fine line between the white collar and blue collar factions of the family. But his bread was always buttered by the more subdued white collar faction. He was one of the few who could keep strong relations with both the Costello and Genovese factions. But in my opinion he was a Costello man at heart. The golf, the friendships with politicians, the country clubs, the sojourns to Palm Springs. You didn't catch Genovese trying to become upwardly mobile. Pro was also very close to Jimmy Alo and Jerry Catena as well. The Genovese family always had a knack for having one guy who could straddle the ranks between Jersey and New York. And from the '50s to the '70s, Pro was that guy. I've heard that, in his later years on the street, when Tino Fiumara was making a name for himself, that Pro wasn't a fan. But Tino was close to Fat Tony and a money machine for Tieri, and Lombardo, so there wasn't much he could do about it. So he WAS a major union force, and a captain, but he never quite had the power on the street of Salerno, Ianiello, Lombardo or Tieri. But he was well liked by both factions made a shit ton of money.
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Re: What We Know About Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano
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tony pro seemed like the real deal. was he under bobby manna or bobby manna under him. there both jersey city guys rite? Good question. I don’t know much about Manna or what he was involved in but I know he was a Jersey guy who was close to the top so I would think that Tony Pro knew him at least. As mentioned in here, Tony Pro was a tremendous earner for the family. Not sure about Manna in that department. I think I read that Anthony Strollo was close to Tony Pro but I could be mixing him up with somebody else. There is a pretty well-known surveillance photo of Manna with Bufalino.
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Re: What We Know About Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano
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tony pro seemed like the real deal. was he under bobby manna or bobby manna under him. there both jersey city guys rite? Good question. I don’t know much about Manna or what he was involved in but I know he was a Jersey guy who was close to the top so I would think that Tony Pro knew him at least. As mentioned in here, Tony Pro was a tremendous earner for the family. Not sure about Manna in that department. I think I read that Anthony Strollo was close to Tony Pro but I could be mixing him up with somebody else. There is a pretty well-known surveillance photo of Manna with Bufalino. What was it about Manna that made Chin take a shine to him exactly? Was it because of his brains, ability to generate money, or something else? Chin was always very careful about who he put around himself.
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Re: What We Know About Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano
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tony pro seemed like the real deal. was he under bobby manna or bobby manna under him. there both jersey city guys rite? Good question. I don’t know much about Manna or what he was involved in but I know he was a Jersey guy who was close to the top so I would think that Tony Pro knew him at least. As mentioned in here, Tony Pro was a tremendous earner for the family. Not sure about Manna in that department. I think I read that Anthony Strollo was close to Tony Pro but I could be mixing him up with somebody else. There is a pretty well-known surveillance photo of Manna with Bufalino. What was it about Manna that made Chin take a shine to him exactly? Was it because of his brains, ability to generate money, or something else? Chin was always very careful about who he put around himself. Scarfo said that Manna had brains. He'd done I think 7 years for not testifying before the NJ State Commission of Investigation into organized crime. Also, despite being based in NJ, he was a member of Chin's crew.
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Re: What We Know About Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano
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Graham told on the Norton show yesterday his first encounter with Joe Pesci, with Graham describing it as: “Awkward is not the word.
“It was the first couple of days of filming, and I was told that he wanted to see me. He asked, ‘Where are you from?’ I said, ‘I’m from England, Liverpool’ and he went, ‘You’re not Italian?’ I apologised for it and he was like, ‘Okay, you’d better do this right,’ to which I said, ‘I’ll do my best.’â€
The actor mentioned that Pesci then told him he “wanted his role†in the film, adding: “I was like, ‘But your part’s massive, you’ve got loads to do.’ And he said, ’I knew Tony [Provenzano, Stephen’s character] so make sure you do a good job.’ The meeting really couldn’t have got any worse!
“A few days later he came up to me and said, ’You’re doing really well, come and have some dinner. But then he said, ’Why are you talking like that? Why don’t you talk as your character so I can understand you?’â€
LOL
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Re: What We Know About Anthony "Tony Pro" Provenzano
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Graham told on the Norton show yesterday his first encounter with Joe Pesci, with Graham describing it as: “Awkward is not the word.
“It was the first couple of days of filming, and I was told that he wanted to see me. He asked, ‘Where are you from?’ I said, ‘I’m from England, Liverpool’ and he went, ‘You’re not Italian?’ I apologised for it and he was like, ‘Okay, you’d better do this right,’ to which I said, ‘I’ll do my best.’â€
The actor mentioned that Pesci then told him he “wanted his role†in the film, adding: “I was like, ‘But your part’s massive, you’ve got loads to do.’ And he said, ’I knew Tony [Provenzano, Stephen’s character] so make sure you do a good job.’ The meeting really couldn’t have got any worse!
“A few days later he came up to me and said, ’You’re doing really well, come and have some dinner. But then he said, ’Why are you talking like that? Why don’t you talk as your character so I can understand you?’â€
LOL I have to check that out. That's great. Pesci says in that dinner conversation that's available on Netflix that he was ready to play Pro but Scorsese insisted he play a boss this time. He also hinted that he knew Pro, talking about how much Pro hated Hoffa. I read something long ago about actors with mob representation and it alleged Pesci was with someone in the Genovese family. Anyone else heard of that?
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