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Re: The movie everybody loves and you hate #97662
02/17/05 07:04 AM
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The Shawshank Redemption (zzzzzzz) & Shallow Grave


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Re: The movie everybody loves and you hate #97663
02/17/05 07:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Senza Mama:
The Shawshank Redemption (zzzzzzz)




I don't want realism. I want magic! Yes, yes, magic. I try to give that to people. I do misrepresent things. I don't tell the truth. I tell what ought to be truth (Blanche/A streetcar named desire)
Re: The movie everybody loves and you hate #97664
02/17/05 08:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Lavinia from Italy:
[quote]Originally posted by Senza Mama:
[b] The Shawshank Redemption (zzzzzzz)


[/b][/quote]Over hyped, over sentimental claptrap. Just my coffee to your tea Lavinia!


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Re: The movie everybody loves and you hate #97665
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LOTR. I'm still trying to finish watching the "Twin Tower". For some reason I'd been spelled not to. "The Fellowship of the Ring" was like the worst movie I've ever seen in my life. Maybe if there were less hype about it, I wouldn't have felt that way. Funny thing is, I like Harry Potter movies.
I also hated "Matrix Reloaded".
That's the Two Towers, not Twin Towers

Re: The movie everybody loves and you hate #97666
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra:
[b] Scarface (1983)
What didn't you like about it? It's my favorite movie of all time! [/b][/quote]Lacks moral depth, runs way too overlong for what it's trying to say, strip away Pacino's over-the-top performance and you've got nothing. De Palma strives too hard for poetry on film, and ends up with a profane monologue of racial injustice and run-of-the-mill (fictional) gangster biopic.

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Re: The movie everybody loves and you hate #97667
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Quote:
Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra:
[quote]Originally posted by Irishman12:
[b] [quote]Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra:
[b] Scarface (1983)
What didn't you like about it? It's my favorite movie of all time! [/b][/quote]Lacks moral depth, runs way too overlong for what it's trying to say, strip away Pacino's over-the-top performance and you've got nothing. De Palma strives too hard for poetry on film, and ends up with a profane monologue of racial injustice and run-of-the-mill (fictional) gangster biopic.

Mick [/b][/quote]Scareface has not aged well. It is like your high school yearbook picture 20 years later. It's like what was I thinking. Pacino's over the top performance is a parody of itself. I believe that in twenty more years it will be like a B movie Attack of the Killer Tomatoes or Attack of the 50 foot Woman.


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Re: The movie everybody loves and you hate #97668
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I think Scarface is a good movie.


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Re: The movie everybody loves and you hate #97669
02/17/05 11:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra:
Lacks moral depth, runs way too overlong for what it's trying to say, strip away Pacino's over-the-top performance and you've got nothing. De Palma strives too hard for poetry on film, and ends up with a profane monologue of racial injustice and run-of-the-mill (fictional) gangster biopic.
Yeah, but... what don't you like about it? :p

Hey, sometimes I think movies are great if they meet just ONE simple criterion: They entertain me every time I watch it! :p



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Re: The movie everybody loves and you hate #97670
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
Hey, sometimes I think movies are great if they meet just ONE simple criterion: They entertain me every time I watch it! :p
Couldn't have said it better myself Don. BTW, Pacino was not "over the top" in his performance.

Re: The movie everybody loves and you hate #97671
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Quote:
Originally posted by J Geoff:
[quote]Originally posted by Capo de La Cosa Nostra:
[b]Lacks moral depth, runs way too overlong for what it's trying to say, strip away Pacino's over-the-top performance and you've got nothing. De Palma strives too hard for poetry on film, and ends up with a profane monologue of racial injustice and run-of-the-mill (fictional) gangster biopic.
Yeah, but... what don't you like about it? :p

Hey, sometimes I think movies are great if they meet just ONE simple criterion: They entertain me every time I watch it! :p [/b][/quote]Meh, me, Capo, Thug, Omar, etc. all rate movies mainly on an artistic slant, although I HEAVILY disagree with Capo on this. :p

Scarface's entertainment value for me is ****, but I rate it as a ***. A movie has to do more then keep me entertained for a few hours.


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Re: The movie everybody loves and you hate #97672
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If I allow it to, just about any film will entertain me for however long it lasts. But for me, it helps to have some weight behind that entertainment; and as already said, Scarface's running length is too long for what it's trying to say, so there are many times in the film where I'm not engaged (I use present tense, as I tend to revisit it every three months or so).

Pacino's whole oeuvre tends to be over-the-top: outrageous stares, animated body language and littered with sudden bursts of verbal diarrhoea. A great actor, but Tony Montana is merely an influential charicature.

There are millions of films much worse than Scarface, but as already highlighted, I only pick it out because of why so many people bewilderingly find merit in it.

Mick


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