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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966331
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How old are his kids? What an awful thing for them to see.

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Follow the money !

Who stands to gain !


No way guys from out of the country are doing this , they don’t have the support system that the Brooklyn, Queens , Bronx guys have.

Follow the cash ! Who gets it ! The next guy up 🙂


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Road Rage on this road at 9 PM ? serious ?


My first guess Sicilians.

Against Inter Gambino theory: If he had problems in the past with his captains. Why he had not more safety precautions ?
Its look like he don't know the driver. A Gambino member he would know.

Now I start to think maybe all 5 LCN groups kill him. Maybe he work to much with Sicilians and was to greedy.

Finally we need more information. So much question are open. We don't anything sure about Canada / New York, we don't know anything about running operations between LCN and cosa nostra. We don't know how Genovese organized.
We don't know anything about connection between family's.

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According to Italian police, Settimo Mineo, planned to go to the United States after being elected boss of bosses of Cosa Nostra in Sicily in order to meet probably members of the Inzerillo clan and others, but he was arrested last year.


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Shocking that the boss of a major crime family wouldn't have more security around his house. Forget cameras. I would think bulletproof windows, doors, and body guards permanently stationed there.

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Originally Posted by spartan
Shocking that the boss of a major crime family wouldn't have more security around his house. Forget cameras. I would think bulletproof windows, doors, and body guards permanently stationed there.



I see what your saying but they barely even kill people anymore in New York. Let alone come to their house and do it while they’re family is inside. I bet after this everyone is on high alert tho and rolling around strapped up

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Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
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Shocking that the boss of a major crime family wouldn't have more security around his house. Forget cameras. I would think bulletproof windows, doors, and body guards permanently stationed there.



I see what your saying but they barely even kill people anymore in New York. Let alone come to their house and do it while they’re family is inside. I bet after this everyone is on high alert tho and rolling around strapped up


I understand what you're saying, but it just seems so odd. The Gambinos are a big organization. Crime bosses is southern Europe live in literal bunkers.

Who ever did this wanted to send a message. There are just so many possibilities, but I don't know much about NYC so I can only make silly guesses. I do think LE will figure out the shooter, but I'm not so sure about who gave the order.

I would rule out anything to do with Canada. I don't think many Canadian OC members want to get extradited to the US.

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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: spartan] #966343
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Originally Posted by spartan
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Shocking that the boss of a major crime family wouldn't have more security around his house. Forget cameras. I would think bulletproof windows, doors, and body guards permanently stationed there.



I see what your saying but they barely even kill people anymore in New York. Let alone come to their house and do it while they’re family is inside. I bet after this everyone is on high alert tho and rolling around strapped up


I understand what you're saying, but it just seems so odd. The Gambinos are a big organization. Crime bosses is southern Europe live in literal bunkers.

Who ever did this wanted to send a message. There are just so many possibilities, but I don't know much about NYC so I can only make silly guesses. I do think LE will figure out the shooter, but I'm not so sure about who gave the order.

I would rule out anything to do with Canada. I don't think many Canadian OC members want to get extradited to the US.

in bunker live only fugitive in italy most of bosses live withouth bodyguards and walk unarmed if there is not any mafia war
anyway if was rally gotti ny could became like montreal

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Moe_Tilden] #966345
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Originally Posted by Moe_Tilden
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Gene Gotti did seem to be as egotistic as his brother John, but I don't see it...He just served almost 3 decades in prison..You would think he'd wanna lay low...The only way I would put him behind it if Cali basically said f**k you, you got nothing coming


The way I remember it, Al D'Arco portrayed him as the opposite.


They all have that neapolitan guappo mentality.


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: m2w] #966346
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Originally Posted by spartan
Shocking that the boss of a major crime family wouldn't have more security around his house. Forget cameras. I would think bulletproof windows, doors, and body guards permanently stationed there.



I see what your saying but they barely even kill people anymore in New York. Let alone come to their house and do it while they’re family is inside. I bet after this everyone is on high alert tho and rolling around strapped up


I understand what you're saying, but it just seems so odd. The Gambinos are a big organization. Crime bosses is southern Europe live in literal bunkers.

Who ever did this wanted to send a message. There are just so many possibilities, but I don't know much about NYC so I can only make silly guesses. I do think LE will figure out the shooter, but I'm not so sure about who gave the order.

I would rule out anything to do with Canada. I don't think many Canadian OC members want to get extradited to the US.

in bunker live only fugitive in italy most of bosses live withouth bodyguards and walk unarmed if there is not any mafia war
anyway if was rally gotti ny could became like montreal



When I say "bunker' I don't mean underground. I'm talking about thick/high walls around houses, multiple large dogs, cameras, bullet proof glass, thick doors etc etc.

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Beenaround] #966347
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This could be the work of a lone nutjob, a mobster aficionado just like the ones that read and post here. Why did that dude shoot John Lennon? He adored John Lennon yet he killed him. I’m just tossing this one out there. This might be about nothing.
Remember that Ciccone kid? Took a shot at John Gotti Sr. outside the Bergin ? They thought he was sent by loyalists from Joe Cat and dumped his body in Joe Cat Jrs. Candy store in SI?
Could just be a wack job proving to himself in his sick fucking twisted mind he is bad enough

Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Hollander] #966348
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Originally Posted by Hollander
According to Italian police, Settimo Mineo, planned to go to the United States after being elected boss of bosses of Cosa Nostra in Sicily in order to meet probably members of the Inzerillo clan and others, but he was arrested last year.



My man, I NEEEEED A SOURCE, STAT LOL!!!!

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Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
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According to Italian police, Settimo Mineo, planned to go to the United States after being elected boss of bosses of Cosa Nostra in Sicily in order to meet probably members of the Inzerillo clan and others, but he was arrested last year.



My man, I NEEEEED A SOURCE, STAT LOL!!!!


Hehe..here you go.

https://livesicilia.it/2019/03/14/p...-legami-siciliani-di-frank-cali_1043394/


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: CabriniGreen] #966353
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Originally Posted by CabriniGreen
Originally Posted by Hollander
According to Italian police, Settimo Mineo, planned to go to the United States after being elected boss of bosses of Cosa Nostra in Sicily in order to meet probably members of the Inzerillo clan and others, but he was arrested last year.



My man, I NEEEEED A SOURCE, STAT LOL!!!!



Lol yea show me some sources I havnt heard that one yet

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You are a treasure my friend.... I asked all the great researchers on the other board about this.....silence

You give me a WHOLE ARTICLE in like....5 seconds, lol

Thank a ton my man!!!!!

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Hollander is a good poster 👍. Love the SCU stuff he posts as well

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Thanks guys. cool

Everything We Know About the Gambino Mob Boss Who Just Got Whacked

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...ust-got-whacked?utm_campaign=sharebutton


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The nature of the hit...in front of his house and in front of his family....just doesn’t seem like something American LCN would do. For one, he’s a boss. And it’s 2019. It just doesn’t make sense. I mean unless this guy was so hard to get to that this was the only plausible way. The NY Times article quoted an anonymous law enforcement official that said Cali was like a “ghost” and no one ever saw him. So maybe whoever did it had been trying and this was a last resort.

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Originally Posted by Shampoo
The nature of the hit...in front of his house and in front of his family....just doesn’t seem like something American LCN would do. For one, he’s a boss. And it’s 2019. It just doesn’t make sense. I mean unless this guy was so hard to get to that this was the only plausible way. The NY Times article quoted an anonymous law enforcement official that said Cali was like a “ghost” and no one ever saw him. So maybe whoever did it had been trying and this was a last resort.






It seems like he was a hard target to hit it wouldn’t surprise me if his home was the only place they could catch him and that’s why it went down how it went down

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Originally Posted by spartan
Shocking that the boss of a major crime family wouldn't have more security around his house. Forget cameras. I would think bulletproof windows, doors, and body guards permanently stationed there.



You've seen the Godfather Movie too many times.. They don't want attention anymore..

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Originally Posted by JoeTadaro
Originally Posted by Shampoo
The nature of the hit...in front of his house and in front of his family....just doesn’t seem like something American LCN would do. For one, he’s a boss. And it’s 2019. It just doesn’t make sense. I mean unless this guy was so hard to get to that this was the only plausible way. The NY Times article quoted an anonymous law enforcement official that said Cali was like a “ghost” and no one ever saw him. So maybe whoever did it had been trying and this was a last resort.






It seems like he was a hard target to hit it wouldn’t surprise me if his home was the only place they could catch him and that’s why it went down how it went down


Are there really any rules today..? I am surprised too. I guess rules are to be broken to suit one's needs..

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Maybe the Americans want back in the drug game.


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It´s already a media spectacle, imagine when there´s gonna be a trial.

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Originally Posted by Hollander
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Gene Gotti did seem to be as egotistic as his brother John, but I don't see it...He just served almost 3 decades in prison..You would think he'd wanna lay low...The only way I would put him behind it if Cali basically said f**k you, you got nothing coming


The way I remember it, Al D'Arco portrayed him as the opposite.


They all have that neapolitan guappo mentality.

Yeah but according to most people Gene was different than John and there was always tension between them. Maybe because Gene was well liked and was made before John. I dont think he had anything to do with Cali but I wouldnt doubt that he still wants to be involved. I mean he has been with the Gambinos since he was basically a teenager despite his long jail term

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Was Cali underboss or boss?


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Re: Frank Cali Shot [Re: Stubbs] #966370
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Originally Posted by Stubbs
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I wonder what Tag would think of this. I certainly never saw this coming, I bet many mobsters in New York neither.


Tag, PizzaBoy, Ivy, Skinny, Gamms, etc etc. Some quality people back in the day who havent been around!
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Skinny was a Chump and a Punk. He would not know shit about this.
Kid was a fraud.

All the others, Solid and would have great input.


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Originally Posted by thebigfella
Was Cali underboss or boss?


Still unclear could also be acting boss. The whole administration is from the “18th Avenue Crew”.

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Gene did extra time in the can so there would be no conditions on his release where Johnny Carnegs chose to get out earlier and go to a halfway house.
With unconditional release means you can’t get violated for having a cup of coffee with another lcn.
Media is pointing fingers at gene right now which is kind of bullshit but as soon as gene was released the post put some stuff out there that implied there would be trouble.
I can’t see it but as others said Geney Boy has been around a long time. If you have a million in shy money out on the street minimum that’s 300k a year but points go to the people collecting etc. It’s not a lot of money for living in NYC.

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Do your math again it's a lot more than 300k a year....would be $1,560,000 at 3 points a week....

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