I hear what you're saying Jshov31 but you're on a public forum titled Organized Crime-Real Life. I cant speak for all, but I come here to learn different things, real life info on organized crime as it happening today depending on the thread. Talking about things that are already "public knowledge" defeats the purpose of the whole forum for me. I read and contribute to the forums to learn more than what's already known to the public. I get that there are some posters who are legitimately connected or hooked up in various forms or with persons involved in OC, but again you are on a public forum. Youre right, it's not a movie, it's a discussion. And not to start a fight, but why would you use your first initial and the first 4 of your last name as your public forum name? With the names you mentioned, I would love to hear more about them.