Obviously so. But, with this, there is fact and fiction, and I'm telling you the fact.
Ah, so it's a fact that we would've beaten the Axis Powers WITHOUT Russia? :rolleyes: Why didn't you say so in the first place? :rolleyes: It's your OPINION, Signore.
If you decide not to elaborate, I'll just take that as a sign that you accept defeat.
I guess that means you accepted debeat in the Cobain/Tupac thread.
You originally said that Ho Chi Minn and them beat the US military. I said, no they didn't. The US military totally kicked their ass inflicting over a million casualties...
Ho Chi Minh's NVA and the VC beat the US military. Is that better?
...we pulled out and missed the goal.
The goal wasn't accomplished..
But we won the war, right? :rolleyes: :p
Dwight D. Eisenhower was elected in 1952 and took office in 1953. Lyndon B. Johnson turned 16,000 soldiers in Vietnam into 500,000 soldiers in Vietnam, and in so doing transformed it from an assistance operation into a big war. After Nixon took office in 1969, throughout his time as President he pulled out more and more troops, eventually pulling them all out.
I think it's pretty safe to say that Eisenhower started the Vietnam War. -Pat
